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If Earth rotates around sun at 365.265 days a year, will seasons start earlier n 5,000 yrs

Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Saunson69
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:25 pm
Earth revolves in orbit around the Sun in 365 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes

If you take the average calendar year over a 4 year span, it is 365 days and 6 hours. The 9 minutes as far as I believe is not accounted for.

So what does that effect? Will seasons gradually change over time?

This was an original thought. I did no research besides looking up how long earth takes to go around the sun.

There are 1,440 minutes in a day. Does that mean once every 160 years, 1,440/9=160, seasons start one day earlier. So over a 5,000 year span, Summer will begin May 21st?

How does this small discrepancy change seasons, day/night with actual rotations of earth around the sun actually taking 9 minutes longer than what our calendar year says.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:27 pm to
Drive Tesla will fix it
Posted by Longhorn Actual
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:27 pm to
I don't know if the math checks out, but it's irrelevant. Any seasonal shifts will be due to manmade climate change, so pay your fricking taxes and eat the bugs.
Posted by MemphisGuy
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:27 pm to
Isn't that why we have leap year?
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

How does this small discrepancy change seasons, day/night with actual rotations of earth around the sun actually taking 9 minutes longer than what our calendar year says.



From Weather Nation:


Leap years happen every 4 years, right?

Yes, but it's not that simple. We follow the Gregorian Calendar, which means leap years must follow three rules:

The year must be evenly divisible by 4

If the year can also be evenly divided by 100, it is not a leap year, unless ...

The year is also evenly divisible by 400. Then it is a leap year.

This means 2000 and 2040 are leap years, but 1800, 1900 2100, 2200, and 2300 are not.

Leap years are not a perfect system.

Because a year is 365.2422 days long and not exactly 265.25 days, the math doesn't always add up. We did the math ... we are rounding up and giving the calendar an extra 11 minutes every year, which doesn't seem like a lot, but that's a whole day every 130 years. As a result, certain leap years will be skipped, and those are the ones that are divisible by 100 but NOT by 400, which according to Smithsonian, "the next time a leap year will be skipped is the year 2100."


To the OP this was fixed remedied with the advent of the Gregorian Calendar.

In September of 1752, 11 days were taken out of the month correct the Julian calendar.


This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:36 pm
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:29 pm to
There’s no way you’re seriously asking this 2 days before leap day
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:29 pm to
You can thank 2/29 for solving all your problems.
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Isn't that why we have leap year?



I addressed this. We have over a 4 year span, 365, 365, 365, 366 days. It comes out to be an average of 365.25 days or 365 days and 6 hours. The earth rotation around the sun takes 365 days 6 hours and 9 minutes. 9 minutes is not accounted for in the calendar from my thinking.
Posted by 0x15E
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:30 pm to
No because the governments of the world manipulate time on a micro scale in order to keep our seasons consistent.

They also account for procession of the poles which if left unaccounted for would eventually change our seasons to be the opposite.

Where we’re really screwed (and cannot be prepared for) is the eventual switching of earth’s magnetic poles.
Posted by Saunson69
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

You can thank 2/29 for solving all your problems.



Reread the post.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:30 pm to
Bookmarked. I'll let you know
Posted by BottomlandBrew
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:30 pm to
Leap seconds are a thing. LINK

ETA: Or rather leap seconds are only a thing for a little while longer:

quote:

On 18 November 2022, the General Conference on Weights and Measures (CGPM) resolved to eliminate leap seconds by or before 2035. The difference between atomic and astronomical time will be allowed to grow to a larger value yet to be determined. A suggested possible future measure would be to let the discrepancy increase to a full minute, which would take 50 to 100 years, and then have the last minute of the day taking two minutes in a "kind of smear" with no discontinuity. The year 2035 for eliminating leap seconds was chosen considering Russia's request to extend the timeline to 2040, since, unlike the United States's global navigation satellite system, GPS, which does not adjust its time with leap seconds, Russia's system, GLONASS, does adjust its time with leap seconds.[6][7]
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:33 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Reread the post.


Nah…
Posted by BigBinBR
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:36 pm to
You are missing part of the “leap year” rules. You skip leap years every 100 years. Unless they are cleanly divisible by 400.

You don’t know about it because the last 100 year that we skipped was 1900 (the next is 2100). The year 2000 was a leap year because it is divisible by 400.


This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:37 pm to
Moon is slowing earths rotation. So in a few million years we won’t even need a leap year.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:38 pm
Posted by PappaPig
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:39 pm to
Paging liberator
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:41 pm to
Climate change is inevitable.


Deal with it.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:44 pm to
Wow that’s quite interesting
Posted by shutterspeed
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