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re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:22 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:22 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Again, if the only uncontaminated DNA he left at the scene was on the button of the sheeth...he was very close to getting away with it because they wouldn't have known to look at his cell phone activity.
Disagree, read the affidavit, they were onto him before they matched the DNA.
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:24 pm to Epic Cajun
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The DNA is the nail in the coffin, but there were onto him before that.
It also doesn't help his case that he has a distinct, ugly Neanderthal forehead and eyebrows that the roommate could easily identify as what she saw.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:26 pm to Epic Cajun
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They were onto him on November 29th when he was connected with a vehicle that matched the description, they then looked back at his previous encounters with law enforcement and found his cell phone number. From there they were able to determine his location on the night of the murders.
All of this is circumstantial and could easily be explained away by a competent lawyer.
It also is fortunate that a motion censor camera was triggered by an animal at the time the murders were taking place. If that doesn't happen, they don't even have the vehicle.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:28 pm to Epic Cajun
Motive?
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:28 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:they still had the white car they had to find...I think eventually, they would have figured it out, especially since he changed his license plate after the murders...I think he would have landed on the radar at some point due to the car.
Again, if the only uncontaminated DNA he left at the scene was on the button of the sheeth...he was very close to getting away with it because they wouldn't have known to look at his cell phone activity.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:29 pm to LarryDavid
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Motive
His motive is likely his obsession with criminal justice and proving that he could commit murder without being caught
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:30 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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All of this is circumstantial and could easily be explained away by a competent lawyer.
Ehhh, I don't know. Sounds like he was caught on camera doing doughnuts around the neighborhood around the time of the murders. That's pretty damning with the rest of the cell phone location data and camera footage even without the DNA evidence.
I bet they'll have alot more come from his home and computer/cell phone search history, etc.
ETA: everyone pointing to DNA needs to reread and realize they were looking at him before the DNA match. They were onto him because of the car footage.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:31 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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His motive is likely his obsession with criminal justice and proving that he could commit murder without being caught
This. And he already looked like a serial killer so ...
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:31 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:I bet his motive was that these girls or one of the girls pissed him off in some way and he targeted them.
His motive is likely his obsession with criminal justice and proving that he could commit murder without being caught
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:32 pm to NATidefan
I'm interested to find out if that was him on (1) that call-in/podcast YouTube show and that (2) Reddit post (describing the gruesomeness of the killing and coincidentally giving a location in woods of Pennsylvania).
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:34 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Again, if the only uncontaminated DNA he left at the scene was on the button of the sheeth...he was very close to getting away with it because they wouldn't have known to look at his cell phone activity.
Read the affidavit, it's eye-opening how truly stupid he was.
The car was spotted on numerous times on video in the area, and leaving the area after the murders at a high rate of speed. WSU police ran a query on Elantras and flagged his. From there they used his plate number to pull his driver's license and his information matched the roommates description perfection, 5'10" or taller, white male, not muscular but athletic build, bushy eyebrows. This dude is 6', 180lb, white male with bushy eyebrows. They were on to him pretty quickly, the DNA is just another nail in his coffin.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:35 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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look at what happened as a result of sloppy police work in the OJ case).
There was not really "sloppy police work" in the O.J. case. The prosecution was just up against an impossible racial cliff of how the jury had their minds made up before the year long trial even started.
...back to the issue at hand...
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:37 pm to NATidefan
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Sounds like he was caught on camera doing doughnuts around the neighborhood around the time of the murders.
Not quite that brazen lol, but again they don't have the car without the motion censor camera being triggered, not by him, but by an animal. It was a lucky break.
But even with the car, it would be tough to get a surveillance warrant with that by itself. They still have to have some proof he was in that house.
The sheeth is the proof, and would give them all the probable cause they need to get warrant.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:40 pm to East Coast Band
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There was not really "sloppy police work" in the O.J. case.
If that's how you feel, I think you need to read more about the case. Maybe start with this article: LINK
I've also had a few different opportunities to have dinner with Dr. Henry Lee where he discussed some of the evidentiary failings.
But yes, back to the Idaho case!
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:41 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Crazy that while this was about to take place a Doordash driver dropped off an order about 4am. That guy could have injected himself into the event as well if the timing was just a bit different.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:41 pm to GentleJackJones
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I'm interested to find out if that was him on (1) that call-in/podcast YouTube show
I don't find it coincidental that the caller on that show specifically calls out Sigma Chi, and the girls had spent some time at the Sigma Chi house that night.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:42 pm to NATidefan
It will be interesting if they find a receipt showing when he purchased the K-bar.
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:43 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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The sheeth is the proof, and would give them all the probable cause they need to get warrant.
They had the warrant on December 23rd, they didn't get the DNA from the parent's home until December 27th. The genetic genealogy rumor was not included in the affidavit, so we can't really argue when that occurred
ETA: I'm curious what was on page 2 that was redacted.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:44 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Not quite that brazen lol, but again they don't have the car without the motion censor camera being triggered, not by him, but by an animal. It was a lucky break.
They have his car on video all over the crime scene area. Not just because of a camera triggered by an animal. Not sure where you are getting that.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/5/23 at 12:46 pm to cbdman
Yeah, I think you guys are missing the boat on the sheath. That's just the final nail.
The video surveillance of the car did him in first.
What I find fascinating is that they knew he was a suspect and on the loose.
Were they watching him? The survivor had to be pretty scared he could come back to finish her off.
Obviously, I'm sure she moved and was back home, but still. This dude was clearly unhinged and free for another two months to strike again.
The video surveillance of the car did him in first.
What I find fascinating is that they knew he was a suspect and on the loose.
Were they watching him? The survivor had to be pretty scared he could come back to finish her off.
Obviously, I'm sure she moved and was back home, but still. This dude was clearly unhinged and free for another two months to strike again.
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