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Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by beauchristopher
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 7:35 pm to
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Yeah…that doesn’t mean shite. If I were to show you a photograph of Ted Bundy, smiling broadly beside his girlfriend and you had no idea who he was, you’d never guess in a million years that he killed 20+ young women over the span of a decade.


I do wonder if we see things differently knowing what a bad person did. And I also agree that not smiling often makes a person look more suspect. There are also creepy smiles. I don't normally jump on saying a guy looks the part, but he looks the part. Perhaps I can't get over knowing he is the suspect.
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1127 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

I do wonder if we see things differently knowing what a bad person did.


Ann Rule worked alongside Bundy as volunteers for a suicide hotline (in those days that meant in the same room). She was stunned when she found out Ted was a serial killer and wrote The Stranger Beside Me, launching her true crime writing career. Very good read.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216404 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:16 pm to
Ted bundy was a very crafty dude.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10521 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:02 pm to
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Police said they began tracking and surveilling Kohberger around Christmas and stayed on him for four days when they spotted the white Hyundai Elantra they believed was connected to the murders.

Investigators said Kohberger drove cross-country in the car to his parents home in Albrightsville, Pennsylvania.


If time frame in this article ends up being accurate as far as when vehicle spotted I wonder if he did anything to hide it in Pullman when cops first starting pushing for info on it before leaving to drive to Pennsylvania. Looks like his apartment had standard outdoor parking (in the one pic I saw).

I know being so close to Pullman & WSU was brought up in this thread several times including killer possibly being a student there with the normal interaction between the areas & students, but I wonder if the city and WSU students were as zoned in to looking and having as much fear as the ones in Moscow. I didn’t read as much about reactions in that college town just 10 to 15 minutes away. In Moscow I think the white car had become like the white truck during the DTL murders which in that case incorrectly became such a focus in Baton Rouge for awhile, and anything close to its description was being called in to the Moscow cops (probably multiple times by different residents).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11588671/Idaho-killer-accused-scaring-female-staff-brewery-branding-one-b-h.html
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
16127 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

May or may not know someone who was with the fbi and said to NEVER do those test.

I may or may not know someone who was with the fbi who said never to use social media - yet here we are



Not with the FBI but I am a US Marshal. Never use social media if you're a criminal and don't want to get caught, it's crazy how often a criminals socials break a case or lead to an arrest. Dumb.

The genealogy tests... I wouldn't do those either way. It's too late for me as my mom, dad, and brother have already done them, but I would suggest telling everyone you know to stay away from those things. Not only can that data be used in criminal investigations, but every bit of it is also sold to the highest bidder.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18434 posts
Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:36 pm to
It’s too late for you anyway… weren’t you in the AF? The gvmnt already has your DNA.
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
1806 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 12:51 am to
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Ted bundy was a very crafty dude.

He was to a degree, but mostly he was just brutal and merciless. Most of his victims didn't struggle or make noise, because he would whack them in the head with a tire iron. He didn't mind if they were dead when he raped them, he wasn't too particular.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24171 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 7:58 am to
Ted bundy was also over 50 years ago before social media, security cameras, and dna geneology data. Guy may have been caught the first week of the first murder with all that for all we know.

I mean the biggest lead here was the dumbass possibly drive by to check out the crime scene AFTER the fact right?
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Crime scene after


That is what I thought as well.

For someone we would assume thinks very highly of himself. That is a ridiculous mistake.

First off, I always like the lone psycho theory. But I always assumed he was lurking on foot in the woods, doing reconnaissance through the rear, facing side of the house with the big, sliding glass door and the balcony.

It would make sense to fold. Cars are not discreet, and leave a lot of evidence and I witnesses. Secondly, if you’re entering from the rear face of the house when you enter through the big sliding glass door if you don’t know the actual layout of the house, you would think you are on the ground floor, and there is only the upstairs. You might not see, the staircase leading down to the first floor/ground floor/basement, or you might see it and assume it is just a staircase to an entrance and not know there are bedrooms down there. I believe that is why the two roommates downstairs survived.

Therefore I don’t believe he drove his car up to the parking area because the only door there is the door to the basement/ground floor/downstairs rooms. And also what kind of stealthy killer drives his car up to the front door.

However, in the body cam footage of the cops, writing tickets for the kids drinking, that is where you can see the car lights driving around is directly in front of that door in the parking area. Which leads me to believe he did in fact drive, his car back to the crime scene for some unknown reason. And that essentially may be the only reason he gets caught.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59893 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:34 am to
Imo he had interacted with the girls at the restaurant to the point where they had talked to others about it similar to what happened at the brewery in PA. people from restaurant told the cops. That would put him on the radar very early maybe even within a week. Car matches. Profile matches. At that point they were just waiting to get dna back.


I saw it mentioned that wording from the cops changed from we have reason to believe the house was targeted to we have evidence the house was targeted after the arrest.
This post was edited on 1/1/23 at 8:37 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74609 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Ted bundy was a very crafty dude.
Like this, Peej?

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17157 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10727 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:32 am to
Someone identified a Reddit user who was commenting in a weirdly arrogantly knowledgeable fashion about the case. Similar to the call in podcast and youtube video vibe.

Reddit name was "Inside Looking"

Stopped posting on the night of his arrest.

Reddit

Inside Looking

Click on "comments"
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:47 am to
I seriously wonder if this mfer has killed before
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4144 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 10:54 am to
It’s almost like he knew what was going to happen. One comment he made was “ when they find the white elantra, the manhunt begins.”
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5245 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 11:05 am to
In another he says Xana and Madison were the likely targets.

quote:

Likely X and M were targets. Same work, same sorority, same house, same majors, different floors.


It's their 2 rooms that were entered. Likely the other 2 were unfortunately in the wrong place wrong time.
Posted by Kay
Member since Mar 2011
1944 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 11:31 am to
He said, “Sometimes killers are just satisfied with the number of people they killed.” Weird. Stopped posting since arrest. Could be a LARP, but how crazy if we find out this guy has been doing all this online commentary all along.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15953 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 11:43 am to
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Someone identified a Reddit user who was commenting in a weirdly arrogantly knowledgeable fashion about the case. Similar to the call in podcast and youtube video vibe.

Reddit name was "Inside Looking"

Stopped posting on the night of his arrest.


That’s wild. I’ve been reading through the comments and people were calling him out as the killer three weeks ago. Apparently that profile stopped posting for a week, the same time he would have been on the road with his dad.

There was also a similar (similarly creepy) profile that was banned earlier in the process called “Outside Looking.”
Posted by TigersLSU
St Augustine, FL
Member since Nov 2007
567 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 11:53 am to
And a Facebook profile called "Pappa Rodger"
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35651 posts
Posted on 1/1/23 at 12:06 pm to
Maybe that profile is him, maybe it's not, but he's just so "sure" on some of those details that it makes me think it's him.

But strangers on the internet seem to have self confidence in spades...
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