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re: I said, "My name is Patrick!"(police bodycam)

Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
All they had to do was ask for his ID. They are the ones trained for this. I doubt their training told them to do what they did.

Kid was confused AF, told them his name, and then asked to see the warrant.

I'm not saying I would've done the same thing, but I would've been just as fricking mad. That kid should get all charges dropped and an apology from the cops.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
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but I would imagine they are a little on edge.


cool

just check his ID
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
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was that before or after he was hiding and escaping in his vehicle non complying with simple orders to get out?
He said his name 2 times and asked for a warrant before he was tased, so there's that.

Yay cops!!!
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:21 pm to
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and why did they feel the need to get him out of the car?


so they don't get shot at.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:21 pm to
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Why are we only focused on his moves, and not the cop's bad plays, since they had more and they were ultimately at fault here.


Because he can control his. I can't control cops, so I do my best to not give them an opportunity to wrong me. It's worked out pretty well so far.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19232 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:21 pm to
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dgnx6
quote:

but it would never have gone there if he just got out the car.
What makes you believe that?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:21 pm to
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so they don't get shot at.


Why didn't they ask for his ID?

Why didn't they show him the warrant?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12471 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:21 pm to
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No. Which is why they lied about asking him for ID.


its amazing --

the cops come to the wrong guy
the guy identifies himself verbally
the cops dont attempt to verify that before cuffing him

they then escalate to tasing him instead of properly trying to ID him

they then lie in the police report, and essentially create a charge to cover their mishandling...

and the kids the jerk to a lot of people...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112626 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:21 pm to
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What didn't happen was the police asking for identification.
I just love the idea that so many are saying he should have trusted the very same cops who totally botched this and then lied to cover it up.

THAT is the group he should have trusted. Brilliant!!!
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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He said his name 2 times and asked for a warrant before he was tased, so there's that.


saying name really means nothing.

he non complied with simple orders to get out of car.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72011 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

Why are we only focused on his moves, and not the cop's bad plays, since they had more and they were ultimately at fault here.



let's be honest here

the folks defending him agree with the cops because this was in a neighborhood that has high crime and they agree the cops should be all powerful
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17710 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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He says his name twice you moron


Yeah, and criminals never lie to the cops about their identity

The dumb bastard should have done what the officers asked and then produced an id showing exactly who he is. Then he could just go back to sitting in his car doing nothing. Just like I'm sure he does all day everyday.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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so I do my best to not give them an opportunity to wrong me


This thought process is beyond fricked up, FYI.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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What makes you believe that?



What makes you not?
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72476 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Dude, they gave him a chance to get out. Even warned him about the taser. Dumbass then tried to slam the fricking door.


They wanted him to get out to arrest him.

He wanted to know what the hell was going on and why..

He didn't want to be arrested and was so confused in the moment trying to understand why and what for..

There has to be better communication here. Period. This is all on them.

He gets out and they arrest him any ways and still have arrested the wrong guy.

I don't like the taser, but that's not even what I am arguing. Even without the taser and him getting out.. he still gets falsely arrested.. without even giving him a chance to prove who he was and work with him.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86264 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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he doesn't have to get out of the vehicle





I'm not versed in every state law, but isn't this why he's being charged with, ummmm, obstruction?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94808 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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cops cannot force you to get out of your vehicle on your property if you did not do anything wrong or without probably cause


Au contraire, mon frere - they absolutely CAN. They oughtn't - that's what you mean.



Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176225 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Why didn't they ask for his ID?

Why didn't they show him the warrant?




they clearly wanted him out of vehicle and secure situation first.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88718 posts
Posted on 7/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
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This thought process is beyond fricked up, FYI.


Yea, I should go out just looking for trouble with the police.
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