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I know we love the blue collar types, but..

Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:28 am
Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:28 am
I feel like honor has been lost within the broader world of it these days.

Most established service providers are charging well beyond normal inflation metrics.

Auto and HVAC companies especially are bending grandma over.

They know you need them at times and they understand the money printing narrative. They've cooked the books beyond what's actually necessary.

Now, of course Joe Monkey Wrench is out there bucking it on his own and he performs a great service at a reasonable price, but unfortunately there aren't too many like him left.

I avoid maintenance service as much as possible because of this. A lot of the jobs aren't actually that hard.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 2:31 am
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64401 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 2:00 am to
Private equity and financial consultants are a big part of this.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 3:16 am to
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A lot of the jobs aren't actually that hard.

Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 3:52 am to
ShopKey (or similar programs) + the right tool(s) = good to go. Hell, you can learn pretty much any warranty swap job on YouTube.

Everything is already diagramed for you and easily accessible on the web.

With a little will and patience the average Joe could do A LOT of maintenance work himself.

Advanced Diagnostics is another story, but a lot of these shops aren't doing that either. Just replace the entire unit baby!!
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 3:57 am
Posted by Buzz Lightbeer
Member since Feb 2018
2679 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:08 am to
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HVAC companies especially are bending grandma over


I’ve seen that one on the hub.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10251 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:32 am to
They kinda have too as a buisness. It is the law of supply and demand. Supply of skilled workers that do these jobs are low and demand is really high. When you add small jobs into the mix with already strectched resources than you need to make it worth it. I live in Germany and it is the same problem here, not nearly enough young guys are going into trades like plumbing, HVAC, construction, and bunch of blue collar jobs. My wife and I own several properties here and we just gutted a house and put a brand new heating system, new plumbling, 2 new bathrooms complete with everything and when it is said and done that job will run us about €65K ($75.5K). The company we use are at a point where they have to cut back on small jobs ,because they have more jobs like mine than they can handle and it is like that with all the companies in the area. The small jobs that this company does do are for existing customers like me and my wife. In another house we rent my idiot tenant got pissed at his wife and slammed the shower cabinet and shattered the glass. Now they are crying on how expensive it will be to replace. The company we use said they would squeeze it in for us and the quote is €2,300 with tax. I told the tenants they can get quotes and compare if they think they can get it cheaper and so far of about the 10 companies that they called only 2 agreed to give a quote and the rest flat out told them they don't have time. One gave them a quote and they are waiting on the other and the one they got was €2,400 with tax. I know alot of people don't want to hear it ,but if you open a legit buisness and do it correctly than you have overhead, insurance, taxes, costs for equipment, you have to be competitive with pay in a job with a shortage of skilled workers especially if you are a small or medium company, then with gas prices going up the jobs you do it has to be worth your time. No one goes into buisness to break even. That may be hard for granny to hear ,but it is not the 70's anymore, shite costs money.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 4:38 am
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22630 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:37 am to
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I avoid maintenance service as much as possible


Oh you avoid calling an electrician or plumber until you have a problem? That's next level thinking dude

quote:

A lot of the jobs aren't actually that hard.



Imagine dealing with dipshits like yourself who have no appreciation for the craft all day everyday
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 4:42 am
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10251 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:47 am to
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ShopKey (or similar programs) + the right tool(s) = good to go. Hell, you can learn pretty much any warranty swap job on YouTube.

Everything is already diagramed for you and easily accessible on the web.

With a little will and patience the average Joe could do A LOT of maintenance work himself.



The problem with this is not many are willing to do this. You also have more single women who are homeowners and though I love my niece it would be halarious to watch her try to handle any tool and repair something. Sadly, alot of average Joe's are like this too. They grew up on a computer, not turning wrenches. It is just reality and as I posted above it is supply and demand along with the cost of doing buisness. Also you know how much tools cost? Even renting them isn't cheap.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 5:03 am
Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:07 am to
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Oh you avoid calling an electrician or plumber until you have a problem? That's next level thinking dude



I guess I call them when I don't have a problem. Ugh what?

Idk.. I've just found that a lot of the maintenance jobs that many Americans pay hundreds of dollars for aren't very hard.

Random simple example: Paying $250+ for a shower cartridge swap = Joke
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 5:12 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139845 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:07 am to
Blue collar types are making as much or more as college education people today. There is a lot of money in service work if you are willing to do some dirty work.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10177 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:08 am to
Millienials and younger guys are generally hopeless when it comes to fixing things. Not saying they are stupid.

I’m talking simple things. Kid I know going to medical school and he can’t change a tire. Another one can’t change a battery. Can’t fix a toilet. Change lawnmower blades/belt. Can’t change oil/air filter.

With the internet there is zero excuse. Videos, forums, and manuals all online for free.

But then they cry they are having it tough. It’s sad but pathetic. They really don’t know how good they have it.
Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
2179 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:10 am to
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Also you know how much tools cost?


I get it, but they can pay for themselves easily.

I think my favorite tool is a high torque Milwaukee 1/2" impact. That bad boy has saved me a ton of money over the years.

I probably shouldn't have made this thread because I don't feel like arguing too much. I'm probably being tone deaf and not accounting for how lazy a lot of people are.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 5:13 am
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10177 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:10 am to
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Blue collar types are making as much or more as college education people today.


You ain’t kidding. I call for some concrete work estimates and guys are showing up in brand new F-250 Platinums.

I’m about to learn how to foreman a concrete driveway myself.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 5:12 am
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10177 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:14 am to
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Also you know how much tools cost? Even renting them isn't cheap.


Autozone has loaner tools for autos for free. Fixed my AC and charged it.

I don’t have any impact or air tools. All my tools are hand tools and I fix a ton of car and house things. You don’t need fancy wrenches. Harbor Freight wrenches are just fine.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17642 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:34 am to
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I probably shouldn't have made this thread because I don't feel like arguing too much. I'm probably being tone deaf and not accounting for how lazy a lot of people are.


Lazy is part of it.

There are people I know that cannot believe I can change my oil and rotate my own tires. They make it sound like it's performing knee replacement surgery. Hell I was doing that on my parents vehicles with dad well before I could drive.

Even back in the 2000's.. I had my 300zx pulled apart replacing the timing belt and components. People came by looked at it, was shocked, and practically said I had messed up and it would never run again. It was back on its wheels with fresh parts the following day. They thought I was freaking Smokey Yunick after that. A simple timing belt job.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17642 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:47 am to
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Also you know how much tools cost? Even renting them isn't cheap.


The home mechanic doesn't need snap on tools. Most of my mechanic tools are Kobalt. You can catch a multitude of decent tool sets on sale for pretty reasonable prices. The recently new ICON sets at harbor freight is actually great for the home mechanic. And sales are run often on those.

And specialty tools can be rented for free at the chain auto parts stores. Just have to front the deposit.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36014 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:48 am to
End stage capitalism. The drive for profits inevitable overcomes ethics and morality. It spirals from there.

We're in it.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1736 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:54 am to
A lot of people who fix stuff do it so they can brag about fixing stuff. I’d rather spend whatever free time I have left after work and whatever kid crap just hanging out with the family. Not under my vehicle. My time with them is worth more. Maybe when they are out of the house or don’t want to see me anymore I’ll go back to spending hours in the crawlspace or hood.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5612 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:56 am to
I don't know what to tell you. Supply and demand. Blue collar people ate shite starting in the 80s and into the 00s. People saw that and told their kids to do something else. Pendulum looks to be swinging back bigly with 50% of high school males entering trades on the promises of riches

Also, people who earn a living enough to support a family are expensive. If you set up an appointment for one of them to drive over to your house and get the mail out of your mailbox, you would not like the price for that either.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41665 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:56 am to
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Private equity and financial consultants are a big part of this.


Yep. Your average non-organized hand has had stagnant wages for decades.
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