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re: I have a friend from Michigan. He claims to be midwestern. WTF is this shite?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:11 am to rebeloke
Posted on 4/15/25 at 12:11 am to rebeloke
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The Upper Midwest is a northern subregion of the U.S. Census Bureau's Midwestern United States. Although the exact boundaries are not uniformly agreed upon, the region is usually defined to include the states of Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin; some definitions include North Dakota, South Dakota, and parts of Nebraska and Illinois
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The National Centers for Environmental Information considers the Upper Midwest climate region to include Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.[1]
The United States Geological Survey uses two different Upper Midwest regions:
The USGS Upper Midwest Environmental Sciences Center considers it to be the six states of Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin, which comprise the watersheds of the Upper Mississippi River and upper Great Lakes.[citation needed]
The USGS Mineral Resources Program considers the area to contain Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin.[2]
The Association for Institutional Research in the Upper Midwest includes the states of Iowa, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin and the upper peninsula of Michigan in the region.[3] According to the Library of Congress, the Upper Midwest includes the states of Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan.[4]
Here you go. File a complaint for the US Census Bureau if you don't think Michigan is considered Midwest.
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Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:08 am to Hangit
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From Detroit, it is about 600 miles to the Atlantic and 2100 to the pacific.
Math does not know the traditions of what something is called or what people feel something is. math just says what things are.
ETA: Detroit is about 80 miles east of Atlanta. Is Atlanta Midwest also? No.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:15 am to Rebel
quote:I'm not arguing that it's not a thing, but, other than army time (and actually half of that), I've lived almost my entire life in the 'western 11' and have never heard the term before.
I bet there are plenty of things you've never heard.
If you chase the Grateful Dead and WSP around as much as I have, you learn a whole lot of basic geography.
Learn something new every day.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 1:26 am to NawlinsTiger9
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Just like when Virginia and Kentucky claim to be southern states.
Right
And they absolutely are not
Yeah. It's not like Virginia contained the capital of the Confederacy or anything.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:13 am to Rebel
Everything N and E of New York: New England
NY, PA, DE: Mid Atlantic
MD, WV, KY, MO: Border States
Everything South of that: the South.
TX:TX
OH, IN, IL, IA: Midwest. Sometimes called the Old Northwest Frontier.
MN, WI, MI: sometimes grouped in the Midwest, sometimes in their own Great Lakes States category.
Dakotas, NE, KS, OK, Great Plains
MT, WY, CO, NM: Rocky Mountains
NV, UT: Great Basin
AZ: sometimes Rocky Mountains, sometimes Great Basin.
WA, OR: Pacific Northwest.
ID: Sometimes Great Basin, sometimes Pacific Northwest
CA:CA
AK:AK
HI:HI
NY, PA, DE: Mid Atlantic
MD, WV, KY, MO: Border States
Everything South of that: the South.
TX:TX
OH, IN, IL, IA: Midwest. Sometimes called the Old Northwest Frontier.
MN, WI, MI: sometimes grouped in the Midwest, sometimes in their own Great Lakes States category.
Dakotas, NE, KS, OK, Great Plains
MT, WY, CO, NM: Rocky Mountains
NV, UT: Great Basin
AZ: sometimes Rocky Mountains, sometimes Great Basin.
WA, OR: Pacific Northwest.
ID: Sometimes Great Basin, sometimes Pacific Northwest
CA:CA
AK:AK
HI:HI
Posted on 4/15/25 at 2:19 am to jdd48
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Just like when Virginia and Kentucky claim to be southern states.
Virginia IS the south. you people have let Arlington and its suburbs define 500 years of history. it’s embarrassing. our country doesn’t exist without the Old Dominion
This post was edited on 4/15/25 at 2:20 am
Posted on 4/15/25 at 4:15 am to WinnPtiger
If you go back to the Northwest Ordinance, that’s a pretty good outline of what I think of as the Midwestern states. Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota…you could add Iowa as well…
Posted on 4/15/25 at 5:23 am to rebeloke
He's right. They are midway to the west. Midwest.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:16 am to rebeloke
We have football teams form Oklahoma that pretend to be in the South Eastern conference
Posted on 4/15/25 at 6:38 am to dirtsandwich
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Where would you say Michigan is located?
Almost in the middle of the Midwest?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:04 am to Rebel
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so Port Allen is in a Western State and Baton Rouge is in an Eastern state?
West Baton Rouge and East Baton Rouge, duh! Might as well be a different country.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:11 am to HeadCall
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What else would they be?
Upper Middle People???
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:38 am to jdd48
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are you trying say Robert E Lee was not “Southern”?
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I was referring purely to their actual location in the US.
below the Mason-Dixon Line?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:40 am to HeadCall
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What else would they be?
North central?
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:48 am to rebeloke
trump should make them the mideast....minn and michigan are loaded with mideasterners anyway
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:58 am to biglego
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Oklahoma should also be in red
That map is my historical understanding of the Midwest. And Oklahoma I've always considered "Southwest", along with Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 7:59 am to rebeloke
quote:He thinks this, because he lives in a state that is in the Midwest.
He says Michiganders believe themselves to be midwesterners. Someone please help understand this perception!
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:43 am to vl100butch
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If you go back to the Northwest Ordinance, that’s a pretty good outline of what I think of as the Midwestern states. Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota…you could add Iowa as well
The northwest ordinance was in 1787
All of the states you listed were not states. Michigan is still far closer to the east coast than the west coast.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 8:46 am to dirtsandwich
Never would have thought that the Dakotas were considered mid west. Wonder what people from there think or claim.
Posted on 4/15/25 at 9:01 am to rebeloke
In 1787 this area was known as The Old Northwest.
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