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re: I have a friend from Michigan. He claims to be midwestern. WTF is this shite?

Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57791 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:22 pm to
maybe this will help

quote:

The term "Midwest" in the United States refers to a region in the north-central part of the country, and its name and identity have evolved over time based on geography, settlement, and national expansion.

??? Geographical Roots & Evolution
Originally in the 19th century, "the West" referred to lands west of the original 13 colonies — basically anything beyond the Appalachian Mountains.

As settlers pushed further west, the term "Northwest" was applied to areas around the Great Lakes, especially after the 1787 Northwest Ordinance, which organized what became Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and part of Minnesota.

As the U.S. expanded to the Pacific, the original “Northwest” became more central — hence, "Midwest" emerged to reflect its new position in the expanding nation.

?? Why “Midwest” if it’s not really west?
It might seem odd geographically, but it's historical. In the 19th century, this region was the western frontier of the U.S. before the country acquired the far West. So "Midwest" essentially means "the middle of what used to be the western United States."

????? Cultural and Economic Identity
The Midwest is often associated with agriculture, manufacturing, and blue-collar industry — especially in states like Ohio, Michigan, and Illinois.

It’s nicknamed “America’s Heartland” because of its role in food production and its reflection of what many see as core American values: modesty, work ethic, and community.

??States Usually Considered the Midwest:
The U.S. Census Bureau defines the Midwest as 12 states, divided into two subregions:

East North Central:

Ohio

Indiana

Illinois

Michigan

Wisconsin

West North Central:

Minnesota

Iowa

Missouri

North Dakota

South Dakota

Nebraska

Kansas
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1232 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:24 pm to
Some sources say he's accurate. Personally, I think the Mississippi River divides the East from the West. You should tell your friend he's Middle Eastern.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Just like when Virginia and Kentucky claim to be southern states.


Right

And they absolutely are not
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
9719 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:30 pm to
From the interwebs:

“Midwest” was invented in the 19th Century, to describe the states of the old Northwest Ordinance, a term that became outdated once the nation spread to the Pacific Coast.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16571 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

You should tell your friend he's Middle Eastern.

Now that makes sense!
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25755 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:30 pm to
Why would you think your friend, who's from Michigan, is wrong and you're right?
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16571 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:33 pm to
I guess the same reason you vote democrat? Because he’s wrong.
Posted by Jdash13
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2023
622 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Michiganders believe themselves to be midwesterners


as opposed to what? i mean they are 100% in the midwest
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13182 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:36 pm to
The Midwest is the middle of the Country between the east coast and west coast...What part of that don't you get????
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25755 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I guess the same reason you vote democrat? Because he’s wrong.

You being an idiot doesn't make your friend wrong about Michigan, nor does it make me a democrat. Michigan is the Midwest. Always has been. Stop being dumb.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13182 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:38 pm to
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Just like when Virginia and Kentucky claim to be southern states.

Mason Dixon Line

Uh..yes..they are...The Mason Dixon line was above both of them...actually above Maryland.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 7:42 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37692 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:46 pm to
Wait until I tell you about Ohio.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57791 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

He says Michiganders believe themselves to be midwesterners. Someone please help understand this perception!


Just like when Virginia and Kentucky claim to be southern states
... completely correct?
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1232 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:50 pm to
All US made, in quadrant 1. Not in the Mid East, in quadrants 3 & 4.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
43171 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

Yet we don’t think of Reno as a Pacific Coast city.


Reno is not near the water so there's that.

Detroit is about 100 miles closer to the Atlantic than the middle point of the country, going straight across from Boston.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117311 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:53 pm to
I think its common in some of the norther states thats are west of eastern coast states. Ohio, Indiana, Illinois.. I don't think West Virginia people are included in this, but every state between each side of the coastal states that don't consider themselves the south are referred to as midwestern.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3168 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:54 pm to


Further proof that Missouri isn’t in the sec.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22394 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 7:57 pm to
My parents are both from Illinois and I’ve never lived there but I’ve lived in the Midwest and been to Illinois a lot. I’ve never heard the term midwesterner. From the Midwest, yes.

Did you friend use midwesterner or is that your made up word OP?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68367 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:04 pm to
Michigan is north of the Ohio River, West of the Appalachian Mountains, and East of the Great Plains. How is it NOT Midwest?
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
12402 posts
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:05 pm to
What does it matter?
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