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re: I hate weak minded people (Scott Peterson case)
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:39 am to WaydownSouth
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:39 am to WaydownSouth
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Amazing how this man has been sitting in prison for 20 years when there is not a single shred of evidence that he killed his wife
You can say this but you’re wrong. Aside from all they determined in trial, which I would say was much more informative than a docuseries...there was a very telling moment someone caught on video and pointed out when the crime/disappearance was fresh. There’s a clip where Scott Peterson goes to get his mail. He was being taped 24/7 by then and he goes out, grabs a stack of mail, then just goes and tosses it into his truck, proceeding to do other things elsewhere.
What the commentator on the show I was watching pointed out was that IF Scott Peterson didn’t already know what he had done and his fear was that Lacie had been kidnapped, then he would have immediately gone through his stack of mail to see if there was any ransom note, correspondence, or any potential clue in his mail as to her whereabouts . The thought to check his mail for clues didn’t even occur to him and as the commentator opined, it was very telling of his knowing what her fate was already that he would just chuck the mail in the truck then not tend to it for hours. I agree wholeheartedly!
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 1:42 am
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:39 am to TutHillTiger
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If I could ever find out more about his fishing trip I would know for sure, but going fishing on windy rainy day in December on big open lake is bullshite, and I am hardcore but that’s just stupid
It wasn't a big lake. It was the San Francisco Bay between Berkeley and Richmond... even worse on a windy/rainy day.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:53 am to TutHillTiger
There were 6 witnesses who saw Laci walking their dog after Scott the house that morning, which was verified from the email he sent from his office/storage unit. Geragos never called them to testify. IMO he didnt call them because he knew his case was sunk after Amber Frey testified and the phone conversations were played for the jury. Once he knew he couldnt get an innocent ruling he sunk his own case so Peterson could file an appeal on the basis of inadequate defense. Regardless of the reason, if any of those 6 witnesses are proven credible then Peterson is innocent.
The burglary across the street was never fully explained. Police said it happened on the 26th because the guys who did it told them that. The only problem was the media was camped out in front of the Peterson house by then so would have seen it happening. Again Geragos didnt make enough of that to help his client.
One of the burglars was caught on a voice recording by a prison guard talking about Laci. Basically said they did it, but the recording was lost and the prison guard later recanted. This revelation happened during the trial and Geragos never investigated it.
Finally there were other pregnant women, around the general vicinty, who had been abducted and later found killed during the previou 2-3 years. This lead was never explored by detectives because they had tunnel vision for Scott.
I have no idea if Peterson is guilty or innocence, but its very obvious Geragos and the detectives did a shite job because neither party expored all paths to the truth.
The burglary across the street was never fully explained. Police said it happened on the 26th because the guys who did it told them that. The only problem was the media was camped out in front of the Peterson house by then so would have seen it happening. Again Geragos didnt make enough of that to help his client.
One of the burglars was caught on a voice recording by a prison guard talking about Laci. Basically said they did it, but the recording was lost and the prison guard later recanted. This revelation happened during the trial and Geragos never investigated it.
Finally there were other pregnant women, around the general vicinty, who had been abducted and later found killed during the previou 2-3 years. This lead was never explored by detectives because they had tunnel vision for Scott.
I have no idea if Peterson is guilty or innocence, but its very obvious Geragos and the detectives did a shite job because neither party expored all paths to the truth.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:59 am to WaydownSouth
There’s a lot of evidence though it’s circumstantial. Plenty enough to convince me, but minds may differ.
If nothing else, he’s a complete idiot.
If nothing else, he’s a complete idiot.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 5/23/21 at 2:45 am to rebel cat
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He's 100% guilty.
Believing he’s guilty and proving he’s guilty are two different things. You can believe that he’s guilty, but there is no proof that he is.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 3:11 am to WaydownSouth
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fake news media.
“Fake news” wasn’t even a thing in 2002
Posted on 5/23/21 at 3:39 am to Epic Cajun
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but there is no proof that he is.
You are using a personal (or at least not the legal) definition of proof. I am being pedantic but you were essentially being pedantic also.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 3:45 am to Tuscaloosa
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He’s either the dumbest, unluckiest man alive, or he is a murderer.
I agree, but juries shouldn't convict on leanings or chance.
His is another one of those trials where you reasonably could conclude ether way, but that's not how its supposed to go.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 3:49 am to Crimson1st
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it was very telling of his knowing what her fate was already that he would just chuck the mail in the truck then not tend to it for hours. I agree wholeheartedly!
People do weird stuff under stress.
I think he's guilty, but I am not sure how you can say with no reasonable doubt.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 7:17 am to WaydownSouth
The tales ate part of the evidence. Oh, and he claimed to be fishing exactly where her body washed up. You clearly want DNA or
Something tangible. It doesn’t always exist and to require it in order to secure a conviction is unreasonable. If enough circumstantial evidence exists and it’s overwhelming then a jury should be allowed to draw conclusions. I didn’t even mention the bleached hair, suitcase full of cash and flight to Mexico. Sounds like an innocent man to me.
Something tangible. It doesn’t always exist and to require it in order to secure a conviction is unreasonable. If enough circumstantial evidence exists and it’s overwhelming then a jury should be allowed to draw conclusions. I didn’t even mention the bleached hair, suitcase full of cash and flight to Mexico. Sounds like an innocent man to me.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:13 am to WaydownSouth
Look at the craft size and the weather the day of his fishing expedition and tell me he didn’t do it.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 10:03 am to Gris Gris
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There’s a lot of evidence though it’s circumstantial. Plenty enough to convince me, but minds may differ.
It seems like there's a lot of circumstantial evidence that he didn't particularly care if anyone found his wife alive. That's not necessarily evidence he killed her.
To draw an analogy, if my sister-in-law's unruly dogs were to get flattened by an 18 wheeler, my wife would shed no tears. She'd probably quietly gloat about it. Still, she's not heading over there and going Ol' Yeller on the stupid things.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 10:15 am to WaydownSouth
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Appeal is going through this year I believe
Dear Legal Beagle,
He received a favorable ruling on the appeal of his sentence.
Hence, there will be a retrial of the penalty phase.
He is still attempting to present new evidence regarding alleged jury selection error in hopes of getting the conviction thrown out.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 10:33 am to michael corleone
What about the cement buckets that he made in his garage?
Posted on 5/23/21 at 11:04 am to WaydownSouth
Weak minded people?
Hell, we still have people that follow CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC< etc.
Hell, we still have people that follow CNN, CBS, NBC, MSNBC< etc.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 11:08 am to WaydownSouth
I never thought he did it. He is a piece of crap. He cheated, lied, acted like a complete idiot. But there is no physical evidence against him. NONE. How is that possible? There is not just reasonable doubt, there is too much evidence on the other side proving he's not guilty.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:21 pm to WaydownSouth
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Amazing how this man has been sitting in prison for 20 years
I know, he should have been dead already. I believe the system worked. Circumstantial evidence is admissible in court and can be used to legally convict people as it does each day in America. 12 people with functioning brains and common sense listened to all of the evidence and felt that he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
The bodies could have turned up anywhere, but they just happened to surface in a body of water near where this genius said he decided to go fishing. And he said he just decided to go fishing on the spur of the moment on Christmas Eve (after 12 pm) because it was "too cold" to go golfing that day. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. It's so cold out on the golf course that I'll go on the water instead where it's windy and much colder than on the golf course. Also, his two-day fishing license was for December 23rd and 24th.
He told his mistress that his wife had died on the same day that he bought his boat about two weeks before he "went fishing" and his wife mysteriously went missing. He also cried and told her that this would be his first Christmas without her. Hmmm. And she disappears right before Christmas. Someone went through a lot of work to make sure that body didn't surface and it surfaced anyway.
A man with a new flame not wanting to be tied down to his wife who is about to give birth has all the motive in the world to get rid of her and it's nothing we haven't heard before with psychopaths.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:29 pm to USMEagles
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To draw an analogy, if my sister-in-law's unruly dogs were to get flattened by an 18 wheeler, my wife would shed no tears. She'd probably quietly gloat about it. Still, she's not heading over there and going Ol' Yeller on the stupid things.
Yea but if she owned an 18 wheeler that she happened to be driving that morning under kind of odd circumstances (say the bad fishing weather is akin to “just running errands in my truck)
And very few of any others were passing through around that time.
Oh and it was her own child not a dog she dislikes getting hit.
It starts to get a bit dicier for her
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:38 pm to WaydownSouth
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This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:51 pm to CrappyPants
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There is not just reasonable doubt, there is too much evidence on the other side proving he's not guilty.
Lol. Wut? Even the Scooby-Doo crew would have all pointed at Scott Peterson as the one who did it.
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