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re: I got the Diabetes but I'm better now(long post warning)

Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:00 am to
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
885 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:00 am to
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It's not. You'll always be a diabetic. What you've found (which is true) is that if you follow a very strict diet it can be controlled. This is not sustainable for most people. Good for you if you can maintain the diet that is necessary.



We may be playing semantics.

Diabetes is diagnosed with an A1C of 6.5 or above and -prediabetes is 5.7-6.4.

Mine will not be above 5.7 if there is anything I can do about it and that is that. We can call it permanent remission if you prefer.

My insulin resistance is better and still improving. I still use my glucometer constantly and I can eat carbs with out a huge glucose spike like before but I will not eat that shite just because I can. It's a conscious choice to be healthy. I will still eat Jambalaya or gumbo with rice at family gatherings etc. but I'll eat healthy by choice.

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Good for you if you can maintain the diet that is necessary.


What the hell? The hard thing was trying to eat oatmeal yogurt and bananas for breakfast. That sucked.

This morning I ate bacon and eggs. Lunch is mesquite grilled chicken breast and a salad. Dinner is pork loin, roasted asparagus a salad and avocado. If that's suffering sign me up.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
885 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:01 am to
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You should specify Type 2 diabetes


You are 100% correct. Sorry for that.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35548 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:04 am to
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What the hell?


We live in a carbohydrate and fast food driven society. That's the point I was making.

Again, kudos because you are correct that for many it can be controlled just by diet. For insulin dependent people it's not that simple. for others they are simply unwilling to make the changes necessary.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:05 am to
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I’m 5’9”
how tall is your husband?
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
885 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:06 am to
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 The total opposite of what conventional wisdom said
It isn't. Low carb diets for diabetics is routine.



The ADA approve dietician was suggesting 100+ grams of carbs a day which is bullshite.

There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate like essential proteins and fats. Your body can do just fine without carbs.

I consider low carbs less than 20g a day. YMMV

Also said fruits were ok. If you understand fructose and the hell it puts the liver through you will avoid them like the plague except for a few berries.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
885 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:08 am to
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Does diabetes run in your family?


On my mother's side. An uncle lost a foot to it. I was aware of the possibility and had thought I was eating a pretty good diet. I was wrong but at least now I know the correct way.
Posted by Rohan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
1571 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:09 am to
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A type 1 friend once told me that if all he ate was broccoli he wouldn't need insulin but who can do that?


Your friend is wrong


while this obviously hyperbole, its not untrue. I have been type 1 for 43 years. I can go days without insulin if I eat extremely low carbs.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:09 am to
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I’ve lost 40 lbs.


Its a miracle....
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54134 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:10 am to
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ETA: A type 1 friend once told me that if all he ate was broccoli he wouldn't need insulin but who can do that?
This is why I referenced op should specify type 2. Type 2 can be controlled and sometimes reversed with diet. It can also often be controlled without insulin.

Type 1 can not be reversed through diet and requires insulin. It is an autoimmune disease that is likely genetic and its onset is unrelated to a person’s weight or diet and exercise habits.

ETA: to be clear, the onset of type 1 isn’t related to diet and exercise, but a healthy low carb diet and exercise can be effective tools in managing type 1 diabetes and maintaining a healthy A1C range.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 9:17 am
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
885 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:10 am to
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This is not sustainable for most people.

Why?


This.

I'm happier with my diet than ever before. The low fat bullshite was horrible and killing me. Eating real food you are much more satiated and aren't hungry all the time and snacking.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:14 am to
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while this obviously hyperbole, its not untrue. I have been type 1 for 43 years. I can go days without insulin if I eat extremely low carbs.


Low carb isn't the same thing as sans fat and protein.

Try it out and let me know how it works out for you.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57483 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:14 am to
Even though I agree with you, Day 2 from a half year ban and right back into calling people idiots in diabetes threads is very on brand. Welcome back
Posted by Slidellproud
Madisonville
Member since Mar 2014
422 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:14 am to
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Welcome to the red pill. Where you finally realize EVERYTHING the gov has told you for the pat 65 years is either:


Bingo
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17057 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:15 am to
thanks i have the same problem.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:17 am to
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Even though I agree with you, Day 2 from a half year ban and right back into calling people idiots in diabetes threads is very on brand. Welcome back


You can take the dog out of the fight, but you can't take the fight out of the dog.

And idiots are born every day, that is unfortunately out of my control.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28361 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:17 am to
Great post. Similar thing here. A few years ago my cholesterol was very high and doc wanted to start me on the meds but I declined and opted to go keto. In a few months I dropped 25 lbs and all blood work returned to normal. Been slowly gaining the weight back and started back on Keto a month ago and down a consistent 10 and dropping.

I don’t know if it works for everyone. I don’t know how it works long term. But it works for me with much, MUCH, mental and physical work. You really need to wrap your head around it, plan ahead, and some days talk yourself into it for it to work. My plan is lazy keto with minimal exercise (30 min hard walk) until I hit the 30 lb loss mark and then start lifting super heavy.

It’s amazing when you start checking labels how much carbs, usually in the form of sugar, they pump into foods even ones that are supposed to be low carb. THANKFULLY the food market has expanded greatly present day. There’s a wide selection of condiments and sauces, one by G Hughes, that are sugar free that taste great, which is a huge help.

ETA:
I also typically do intermittent fasting and only have a cup of coffee until about 4-5pm.

Also I’ve found many places now offer keto friendly alternatives like at Five Guys and Jersey Mike’s you can get your burger/cheese steak in a bowl. Damn good.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 9:28 am
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
885 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:18 am to
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Welcome to the red pill.

Where you finally realize EVERYTHING the gov has told you for the pat 65 years is either:

A) to control you or
B) to stuff money into the pockets of Big X so they can feed the gov grift

Big X - food, pharma, diet, whatever.

They charge you extra to "eat healthy", then charge you for the rest of your life for the meds and Dr visits.


I don't know why the downvotes but if you start to look into the history of nutrition and govt policy there is some dark shite. Doctors knew how to handle diabetes 100 years ago but the discovery of insulin and other drugs. led to just putting people on drugs and keeping them on them.

Look at old recipe books for diabetics and you will see that the diet they recommended works. The fricking ADA(and AHA) is funded by food and drug companies and have no desire to get you healthy they just string you out.

Look at Ancel Keys and McGovern and the BS low fat study.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
885 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:19 am to
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My 80 year old dad just did the same thing. He stopped eating at 6 PM. Went from 250 to 175. No more diabetes and he feels great! Very active. Life has changed in the last 18 months. All biomarkers looking good. He also follows Dr. Berg along with the other youtube guru's you list.


Awesome. It's never too late to get healthy. Hope he enjoys his sunset years.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1068 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:21 am to
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while this obviously hyperbole, its not untrue. I have been type 1 for 43 years. I can go days without insulin if I eat extremely low carbs.


Without basal, too?

Either way, it is 100% untrue and dangerous to suggest type 1s don’t need insulin on a low carb diet. Low carb might prolong how long you can live, but you will still die if you don’t take insulin eventually.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30085 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:21 am to
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