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re: I got the Diabetes but I'm better now(long post warning)
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:35 pm to lsucoonass
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:35 pm to lsucoonass
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ride an alpaca,
Can I sunbathe my balls while doing this? I like to multitask.
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:37 pm to SpartanSoul
Carnivore Aurelius highly recommends
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:40 pm to WDE24
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WDE24
It's clear what the OP is trying to say, and his posts are both practical and sensible acknowledging the credibility of both sides.
Not sure why you are being a dense dickhead
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:54 pm to SpartanSoul
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Fast forward to early April and new blood test. A1C now 4.9 triglycerides and other levels are in line or just off, should be perfectly fine at next checkup. I’ve lost 40 lbs. and feel great, more energy than I’ve had in years. Doc says things look great and keep doing what I’m doing. Meds cut and I hope to be off last ones in July. I think I could stop all now but acquiesced to Doc’s wishes to wait until July to make sure everything is stabilized.
I needed a good story today. Thanks for sharing. Good for you.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:36 pm to SpartanSoul
quote:I don’t doubt there have been people misdiagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I have never seen evidence of someone that has reversed type 1 diabetes through diet in the long term. I am happy and hopeful you will provide a link to someone.
There are people who were told they were Type 1 and have been able to reverse it. Do you doubt that?
quote:it can very much hurt a type one diabetic to eschew necessary insulin for a claimed dietary fix. It does not hurt though to try a low carb diet to help love a healthier, longer life with a lower insulin need.
Does it hurt to investigate and try?
quote:I do as well and I’m happy you have done the necessary work to control and hopefully permanently reverse your condition. I think this thread and a lot of the information in it is valuable. I think a low carb diet with appropriate exercise is good for everyone, including type 1 and type 2 diabetics. I only push back against claims that diet can cure type 1 diabetes because these claims have been around and debunked for years and often leads to issues with control and treatment of type 1 diabetes.
I truly hope everyone enjoys the best health they can. Good luck.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:01 pm to SpartanSoul
quote:This is the main takeaway. Keto is very effective for many and some are able to maintain that diet long-term.
And I strongly encourage people to find what works for them and to adapt and change as required.
I lost 115 lbs, cured my hypertension, and "reversed" my diabetes eating a fairly high carb diet. Like you, all my blood markers are in the healthy range now.
I chose the diet because it's easier for me to maintain (and I don't have to track macros) long-term than keto, though I do occasionally mix in keto and IF. If you can do keto forever then more power to you.
In any case, I'm glad you decided to take control.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:08 pm to WDE24
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I don’t doubt there have been people misdiagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I have never seen evidence of someone that has reversed type 1 diabetes through diet in the long term. I am happy and hopeful you will provide a link to someone.
I wish I could go right to them but I've watched hundreds of videos. They are definitely out there.
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it can very much hurt a type one diabetic to eschew necessary insulin for a claimed dietary fix. It does not hurt though to try a low carb diet to help love a healthier, longer life with a lower insulin need.
I would hope no one got a "throw the insulin in the trashcan" vibe from what I was saying. Obviously all insulin dosages should be based on blood glucose levels and not just randomly changed. Many have stated they had to lower dosages because their glucose levels were going too low. You follow the science and actual readings, not guess and hope for the best.
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I only push back against claims that diet can cure type 1 diabetes because these claims have been around and debunked for years and often leads to issues with control and treatment of type 1 diabetes.
That's why I have been honest and made no such claims. I wasn't researching Type 1 so saw what I did incidentally. I have not seen anyone say point blank that they can 100% restore Beta cells. I have seen plenty say that they were told they would always be on insulin and that turn out to not be the case.
Why this is I have no idea I don't have lab work ect. from them but it is worth following up. Maybe their diagnoses was made years ago with less understanding than the medical community has now. Maybe false diagnoses of Type 1 is too common due to laziness or the pushback from insurance companies not allowing follow-up tests etc. I had to pay for some bloodwork because the insurance company wouldn't pay for it or only once a year. I had to override my Dr because they were going to follow the insurance guidelines. This makes no sense since me being off of medicine and controlling my diabetes will save them a shitload of money in the long run.
For those that can get off insulin great. For those who can't don't give up and do the best you can. It's your health and no Doctor, pharmaceutical rep or food maker will care about you like you do.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:12 pm to northshorebamaman
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This is the main takeaway. Keto is very effective for many and some are able to maintain that diet long-term.
I lost 115 lbs, cured my hypertension, and "reversed" my diabetes eating a fairly high carb diet. Like you, all my blood markers are in the healthy range now.
I chose the diet because it's easier for me to maintain (and I don't have to track macros) long-term than keto, though I do occasionally mix in keto and IF. If you can do keto forever then more power to you.
In any case, I'm glad you decided to take control.
Well said.
I was stupid to not change what I was doing because I was being told by my Dr. and common wisdom to keep eating a low fat diet.
It's like the definition of insanity. Why did I keep doing the same thing and expect it to start working? You can believe I will stay on top of things and if Keto stops working or isn't sustainable I will change before I crash into the wall.
Good luck everyone.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:12 pm to SpartanSoul
And congrats again!
quote:Also, I couldn’t agree with this more.
It's your health and no Doctor, pharmaceutical rep or food maker will care about you like you do.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:13 pm to SpartanSoul
quote:You've done a shite to of research and found what works for you. Congrats!
SpartanSoul
I think WDE24 is just trying to clarify and differentiate Type I/Type II components and their varying degrees.
What works for some may not work for others. You said yourself that you are 50 and you followed a low fat diet, exercised and followed American Heart Assoc & "experts" diet guidelines but still slowly put on weight to +200 pounds at 5'9" and followed your doctors recommendations.
You found what works for you and you appear determined to stick with it to maintain good health.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:34 pm to RT1941
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You've done a shite to of research and found what works for you. Congrats!
Yeah that's what you have to do. Through the gaining weight and early diagnoses it was just so "standard production line".
It was no big deal just eat better and exercise. Yep you got the diabetes eat better, exercise and take this medicine. When it gets worse we'll up the dosage. When it gets bad enough we'll put you on insulin. Hopefully when you loose a leg it will be years from now and no big deal.
So many people get diabetes these days it's no big deal and almost to be expected. Like I said it a joke on TD. For many they don't have to accept it but they have to look for solutions all over, not just the experts and associations.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 4:45 pm to Trevaylin
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A result of type 2 diabetes is foot neuropathy and does not appear to be reversible after a1c is in control
I am living proof of this. Dead nerves are dead nerves. once gone they don't come back.
It can also happen to type 1. My endocrinologist diagnoses me as a hybrid as I have tendencies of type 2 and type 1.
I think that what the OP has done is great and he's put a lot of time and effort into determining what works for him.
That said, I'm 32 years into being diabetic and he's 4 months in. Long term he may have to make additional adjustments to control his levels. Fingers crossed that what he's doing now continues to work for a long time.
Things are improving medically for diabetics. Ten years ago I took pills and 4 shots of insulin a day. Now, I take a single dose of insulin every day and I don't have to sit and calculate not only what my sugar level is pre meal but also calculate what I'm about to put into my body as food to determine how many units of insulin I need to take.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:01 pm to VABuckeye
Type 1 diabetics don't make insulin so they'll always need it to some degree.
Type 2 diabetes is mediated by obesity, so it improves with weight loss. The body overproduces insulin in obesity. Caveat: in some type 2 diabetics the pancreas gets "worn out" and stops making as much insulin, so some people become insulin dependent.
When it comes to weight loss, remember that "abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym." If you're overweight, run a marathon, then eat a pie, you won't lose weight.
Type 2 diabetes is mediated by obesity, so it improves with weight loss. The body overproduces insulin in obesity. Caveat: in some type 2 diabetics the pancreas gets "worn out" and stops making as much insulin, so some people become insulin dependent.
When it comes to weight loss, remember that "abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym." If you're overweight, run a marathon, then eat a pie, you won't lose weight.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:05 pm to Metrybaw
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Type 2 diabetes is mediated by obesity, so it improves with weight loss.
Hence why my endocrinologist terms me as a hybrid. I was 6'2" 195 lbs when I was diagnosed. My body makes some insulin but for lack of a better term doesn't know what to do with what it produces and/or doesn't produce enough. Thus, the hybrid diagnosis and my insulin dependency.
ETA: I understand your point about obesity. I had to sit through a class when I was diagnosed. Every other person in the room was as big as a whale. I felt very out of place.
If I'd been younger when diagnosed I'd be classified as type 1. It's really just my age at the time of diagnosis that muddled things.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:16 pm to VABuckeye
Agree. Diabetes used to be classified as juvenile onset (now called type 1) and adult onset (now called type 2) based mainly on age rather than insulin deficiency (type 1) or insulin resistance (type 2). There are people who develop type 1 diabetes later in life that is unrelated to obesity
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:18 pm to Metrybaw
Did not read all the threads, comments,but will tell you this. Metformin will eat your kidneys up. It did mine.
If it comes down to insulin shots daily or metformin, take the shots. Trust me.
If it comes down to insulin shots daily or metformin, take the shots. Trust me.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:07 pm to SpartanSoul
Bookmarked
Posted on 4/20/22 at 7:10 pm to VABuckeye
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Hence why my endocrinologist terms me as a hybrid. I was 6'2" 195 lbs when I was diagnosed. My body makes some insulin but for lack of a better term doesn't know what to do with what it produces and/or doesn't produce enough. Thus, the hybrid diagnosis and my insulin dependency.
ETA: I understand your point about obesity. I had to sit through a class when I was diagnosed. Every other person in the room was as big as a whale. I felt very out of place.
If I'd been younger when diagnosed I'd be classified as type 1. It's really just my age at the time of diagnosis that muddled things.
Weight is not the only correlate of metobolic health hence how one can not be obese and have chronic disease. We still have a lot to learn in this area.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 7:22 pm to WDE24
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It's your health and no Doctor, pharmaceutical rep or food maker will care about you like you do.
Also, I couldn’t agree with this more.
Sadly, alot of (if not most) people don't actually care about themselves very much
Posted on 4/20/22 at 7:24 pm to SpartanSoul
Look up Cardarine and do some research. Practically reverses diabetes and helps fight obesity.
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