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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:02 pm to
Also atmospheric conditions and steering patterns are probably different now than they were in 1998, but let's not let that stop him since right this moment they seem on a similar line.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:03 pm to
They're getting some good hard data right now to put into the global models so I think we'll get a better feel on the path tomorrow. Will be interesting to see how it changes with the new data.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:04 pm to
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Are you a meteorologist?



Is there a person in this thread who is?
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147069 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:05 pm to
NOAA9... the upper level recon mission... dropped 3 dropsondes in the NW quadrant of the storm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:05 pm to
I can't remember exactly what rds does but he's pretty much one.

baytiger actually is a meteorologist. Pedro is studying it I believe.

Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:06 pm to
I still remember old Bob Breck pulling out his Viper track. I miss old crazy Bob.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:07 pm to
You're acting like the models and meteorologists are just making random guesses
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166692 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:07 pm to
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Are you even watching the path get closer and closer to crossing Hispaniola and Cuba? It's not pretty likely that it won't do that anymore. You're watching these crappy models keeping it north when they've been wrong the entire time so far on this storm. It would be great for the US if they did that.
How do you know the models keeping it North are wrong (when they are the two best cited on this board) and the storm hasn't happened yet to say they were wrong. If you are trolling, kindly stop, please TIA.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:07 pm to
Yes. There are a couple.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51674 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:08 pm to
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Is there a person in this thread who is?
Touche', however it certainly has a few clowns, well, at least one.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71011 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:08 pm to
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You're acting like the models and meteorologists are just making random guesses



You are giving him exactly what he wants.


Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:08 pm to
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I can't remember exactly what rds does but he's pretty much one.

baytiger actually is a meteorologist. Pedro is studying it I believe.



Have any of them commented on the upturn? It seems by the models that it will happen, but just depends East or West.

Also like to say I know nothing about meteorology, so anyone with knowledge would make me feel better.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 6:11 pm
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
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You are giving him exactly what he wants.

Yeah I took the bait
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39090 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
there's no way of knowing if a models wrong or right until it plays out. Will it turn and hit the northeast (like the gfs initially stated) or sucker punch central la (like the Euro initially stated)? Probably not but there's nothing to say "these models have been wrong the whole time" until this thing is said and done. Chill out.

The fact of the matter is there's still a lot to watch develop and see play out before we know anything for certain about this storm. The only people who really need to be on high alert state side right now are Puerto Rico and the keys because no matter where this ends up they'll likely get something. Outside of that everybody has a reason to keep an eye on this for right now but no reason to be in full on panic mode.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 6:10 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177195 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

You're acting like the models and meteorologists are just making random guesses


Typical errors in a 7-day track forecast are over 500 miles so they basically are.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
33465 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:09 pm to
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Georges was the reason I started hating Margaret Orr (WDSU meteorologist)


Everybody get out now...! LOL..!
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80661 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:11 pm to
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NOLA evacuated for that one I believe on a Saturday of an LSU home game. And if it wasn't that one it was indeed another one and NOTHING happened and that's why people are sketchy about evacuating. #bettersafethansorry


Dan Borne kept announcing the I-10 closures. By the end of the game, I-10 eastbound was closed at Highland.

We were making jokes before the game that this would give a new meaning to Death Valley, and we'd have a hurricane game to go with the Earthquake Game.

I also member people freaking out because some reporters were standing on the Riverwalk and the Mississippi was flowing the wrong way. They started telling everyone that was just the wind and only the surface was flowing backwards.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:12 pm to
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Have any of them commented on the upturn? It seems by the models that it will happen, but just depends East or West.


That is seems likely, but the drivers are pretty complicated and interconnected so everything from missing land back into the Atlantic to getting in the gulf are still in play because getting the steering right for the models is really difficult.

So we wait and see at this point.
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 6:13 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21465 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:12 pm to
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there was a local weatherman downplaying the GFS models of having sub 900 system due to the model not referencing a particular data set with something to do with ocean interaction or something of the sort.



I'm not sure what he is referencing but the GFS isn't an atmosphere/ ocean coupled model. We can all agree the GFS solution is on the extreme side of things but the Euro 926 is also very low. Ocean heat content is supportive of Cat 5 and Irma is modeled to have extraordinary outflow. Irma has high end, if not record breaking, potential.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166692 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 6:12 pm to
Are you more relaxed watching the new GFS? BOUT ALL OF Fla taking her down and she breaks down to nada before GA or SC.
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