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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:38 am to
Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:38 am to
Pinellas County sheriff just said that "under no scenario will a Zone C evacuation be necessary." That's pretty bold. Should make a lot of people feel more comfortable staying.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:39 am to
quote:

We're about 35 feet up from what I looked at (if I read the map properly). Second safest area to be in the county


Okay bud be safe!
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:39 am to
In regards to the northern shift, can anyone tell us when the models have estimated it to happen? Approximate time is what I'm asking.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:39 am to
Agreed 100%
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45888 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:39 am to
Posted by MarcusQuinn
Member since Aug 2005
582 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:39 am to
The models are the best we have and the data is limited and fluid. I'll trust them and the people trained to analyze them over some random "I'm calling it. Book it" turd post.

That being said, saying it stayed in the cone doesn't really mean it was an accurate forecast path. It could do a 180 within the cone and head south, then the next cone is south of it and so on. It's always going to be in the cone. The cone isn't a path. The cone is dictated by the path. "They were wrong, the path moved," and "They were right, it never left the cone," are both accurate statements.

It's an argument that could go on forever. And judging from this thread, it will. Book it.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:40 am to
Festus next 6-10 hours
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Wrong. The end of the cone could be due west from Irma instead of north (in Florida). But it's not. It is predicting a 90 degree turn and they have been predicting this turn for a week now.


I didn't mean "any direction" from the hurricane's starting point.

I was referring to the largest area of the cone as the ending/new starting point
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20703 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:40 am to
quote:

people are mad about pointing out a shifting storm track
We don't need your "mad" nor the monday morning quarterbacking.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:40 am to
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Duke , Slackster . If it hugs the west coast of Florida (say 20-30 miles offshore ) can it continue to strengthen as it goes up the coast ?




It won't help, but the NHC is forecasting some pretty significant shear as it moves into the central part of the peninsula. That should inhibit anything notable.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:41 am to
The water is plenty warm to support strengthening but there should be a little shear coming across to at least limit the upside.

The NHC has it getting back to 140 before a landfall. You should expect it to strengthen and maybe more than just back to 140.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18622 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Well, this thread has gone to shite.



It's Saturday.

Posted by PRK
Member since Sep 2009
9142 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:42 am to
Ocean you in St. Pete?
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69112 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:42 am to
The cone, to me, never makes sense because the cone itself shifts. It should theoretically just be the path inside the cone.

If the whole cone moves that defeats the purpose of the cone.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59224 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:42 am to
Fact: don't care, lets move on
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20703 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:43 am to
quote:

I do think that local and state authorities fricked up their evacuations and planning based upon how the NHC presents its forecast.
Yeah, but it isn't an exact science yet.

They can't take chances.

Better to over react.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78303 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:43 am to
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It's Saturday


And?
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45888 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:44 am to
Ye man
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14258 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:44 am to
GFS still blowing her back up to Cat 5 after she leaves Cuban coast. And it has her at 947 millibars 3 hours from now which is about right but even a little high.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I do think that local and state authorities fricked up their evacuations and planning based upon how the NHC presents its forecast.




Yeah I'm not sure why coastal Georgia and SC were so quick to pull the trigger. People in southern Florida needed to get out early, but those states had another 24-36 hours to wait.
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