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re: Hurricane Florence - Catastrophic Flooding Potential

Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:00 am to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:00 am to
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Up next are Florence and 92L and models trended west with both overnight.


Get hype!
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:00 am to
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The hype with Florence will be unbearable, if the models start seriously showing an East Coast threa


Didn’t the latest model have it as a 920mb storm approaching DC/NYC

Could you imagine a Katrina hitting NYC on that island?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:01 am to
They shouldn't have built NYC on an island knowing this could probably happen /sarcasm

Bet no dumbass politicians will say that shite unlike what they did with NOLA.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:03 am to
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I'm not pissed off, I just think that officials and weather "experts" blowing every storm that comes anywhere near out of proportion are a big part of the reason so many people don't react correctly when there is a REAL threat. People get complacent. How long has it been since these people read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf?" The story has a real meaning to it.


Lotta truth to that, but if you listen to the NWS and the NWS only, you'll be fine. The local mets and TWC are more worried about ratings.

ETA - and Tigerdroppings of course. We're as solid a source as you'll find.
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 8:05 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:06 am to
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Jesus man. That would likely put it in Cat4/5 territory.



Umm an 894 mb storm would be a strong Cat 5. Like 200mph winds
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21486 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:07 am to
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GFS also has a depression/TS in southern gulf next weekend heading to South Texas.


The overall pattern is supportive of this type of scenario. Another thing to watch over the next week to 10 days.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:12 am to
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Euro EPS Florence


That one line going across Florida and straight into Nola
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:13 am to
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I just think that officials and weather "experts" blowing every storm that comes anywhere near out of proportion are a big part of the reason so many people don't react correctly when there is a REAL threat. People get complacent. How long has it been since these people read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf?" The story has a real meaning to it.




Part of the reaction today is how far east Gordon slipped relative to expectation. At 4 pm the Hurricane Center had a landfall a touch west of Biloxi. It was coming in on the AL/MS state line at 10 pm. That's a huge miss based on the NHC's track record that close.

Monday night into Tuesday still had quite a few computer models putting a hurricane into St. Tammany and almost all were bringing Gordon close enough (and many as a hurricane) to impact our far east parishes in some way.

I always here the Katrina story when storms are expected to go east. "Well Katrina was suppose to hit Florida and then it suddenly changed." The scar of that memory still impacts gov officials decision making on storms. I just think back to our Irma thread here last year and the torrent of questions about how everything could be wrong and it was going to come this way because Katrina.

Anything west of Orleans closing or south of Orleans was overkill, yes but I'm no where close to thinking Louisiana won't take the next threat seriously.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177206 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:16 am to
Assumption Parish cancelled school yesterday.

Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
31989 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:18 am to
This was the nicest two days of weather we’ve had in NOLA in a month. ThanksGordon
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
18049 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:22 am to
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At 4 pm the Hurricane Center had a landfall a touch west of Biloxi.

That was strange. We could all see the radar showing it heading towards the MS/AL border.

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Anything west of Orleans closing or south of Orleans was overkill,

Yeah I think we knew yesterday morning anything west of St Tammany really had no shot of seeing any impacts.
Posted by ST.TAMMANYTIGER
covington(Only banned twice)
Member since Mar 2004
7798 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:22 am to
Any word on how Perdido/Orange Beach came out?
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:24 am to
So what are the chances these new storms make their way to Gulf? I have a lot of Armageddon supplies I didn't use for Gordon.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:30 am to
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That was strange. We could all see the radar showing it heading towards the MS/AL border.


It was strange. It was a ways from the radar, so there were questions of where the low level center really was I guess. It was probably too far west, which I think recon confirmed later in the evening IIRC. I don't want to hate on the NHC, because those guys have been excellent on track for years now and a 30-40 mile miss is "huge" now, but had they gone a bit more east at 4, some of the schools would have probably reevaluated.

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Yeah I think we knew yesterday morning anything west of St Tammany really had no shot of seeing any impacts.



We did for the most part. Orleans given the geography and population should have a quick trigger and play things conservative. Otherwise, a parish like Assumption closing was fricking ridiculous. It looked worse for BR yesterday and we had a forecasted peak gust of 15 mph and like a half inch of rain.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34731 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:31 am to
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How long has it been since these people read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf?" The story has a real meaning to it.


I was thinking the same thing yesterday. They need to stop that immediately. It is setting up people for disaster.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:35 am to
Slackster, come on down. You're the winner of the max wind game!

70 mph gust on Dauphin Island.



We got a 72 mph offical on the east side of Dauphin Island.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25513 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:36 am to
Florence looks like an east coast threat. It could get ugly next week

This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 8:39 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:44 am to
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Part of the reaction today is how far east Gordon slipped relative to expectation. At 4 pm the Hurricane Center had a landfall a touch west of Biloxi. It was coming in on the AL/MS state line at 10 pm. That's a huge miss based on the NHC's track record that close.



Is it though? At a northwest heading with 6 hours and 90 miles to go until landfall, missing the center by 30 miles will cause an exaggerated miss on the coastline.

ETA - I mean, the missed it, but it was still within the come even at that distance.
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 8:48 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:46 am to
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Slackster, come on down. You're the winner of the max wind game!


Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87260 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:47 am to
Hey RDC, Duke and Slackster, I'm planning to wake up in the middle of the night to order the new iPhone on September 14, is that going to be disrupted by a catastrophic Florence making landfall on Georgia?

thanks in advance
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