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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area

Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:27 am to
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9559 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:27 am to
You guys can keep your McMansion subdivisions and HOAs.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:28 am to
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lafloodcert


My man! Hope all is well with the family. You know me and I know you. I used to work with your wife at an LA firm about a decade ago, if that gives you a hint. Initials are AE. I'll vouch for your knowledge on the subject.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1618 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:35 am to
Same story here in Santa Rosa COunty Florida. Retention and detention ponds are considered the cure-all and they are barely bandaids. The county doesnt have enough people to maintain the ones they are responsible for much less the ones HOAs are supposed to maintain.
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Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:38 am to
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This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 7:51 am
Posted by lafloodcert
Wrong side of town
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:41 am to
Sup! We good. There's 3 of us now.

Been needing to track you down. You a TN PLA? Got something to discuss with you.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:43 am to
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Not sure why zoning would encourage an actual wet pond over a dry area that can retain water in a storm. The dry ones are far easier to maintain long term.


The developers can afford to give the council members bigger kickbacks from a neighborhood with a "lake" instead of a sunken field.
Its always about the money, and never ever about what's best for everyone.
Ascension Council and Corey Orgeron in particular,
A reckoning is coming to your doorstep, your unkempt, dilapidating door step.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 7:44 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:47 am to
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storm water pond constructions isnt causing these issues.... storm water pond maintenance, or lack thereof is causing this issue.



Wrong. If a pond stays 80% full of water or mud, there's only 20% left to fill during a storm. 20% is 20% no matter what you fill it with.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:52 am to
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CarRamrod

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This really is a maintenance issue.


Wrong, the entire design is flawed for EVERYONE except for the developer.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:56 am to
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new development is an easy target. However, it plays a miniscule part.

So much knowledge in your posts to ruin it with a terribly wrong opinion. Ask who contributes the most to the construction and engineering depts at LSU and you will find the real answer.
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If you want to make an argument that older development (pre 1990) that didn't provide detention, fill mitigation or requirements for houses to be built above the flood elevation are more of the problem, then I'll agree with you. New development is not the issue.

You mean all those houses that never flooded until this new type of development started?
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 7:59 am
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:05 am to
Seems like a simple solution, dig all retention ponds 20 feet deep to account for 8 feet of silt that will fill in within the first 10 years.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:18 am to
There is no doubt that too many of these ponds go without maintenance. Look at the one in front of Home Depit by the old McDonald’s for instance. It was left unattended and quickly was overrun by weeds and trees.

But the same thing is happening across the parish to every catch basin, ditch, creek, canal and the rivers that have largely not been maintained for decades. If ponds are silting up, and if ponds are becoming overgrown with vegetation; you know the rest of the drainage system is too.

We have paid taxes for decades to deal with drainage maintenance but the politicians have siphoned money out of the general fund to finance their pet projects.

We see all across the parish the results of years of neglect. Roads, sidewalks, street signs, and yes our drainage system too have been neglected far too long. Trash is all over. Fences sling the interstate are down. Drive around, it’s obvious we are not taking care of our parish.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by lafloodcert
Wrong side of town
Member since Sep 2021
8 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:19 am to


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Post pics of your wife

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Anytime, anywhere, baw. Except for the one on Coursey. There's orders to arrest me on sight next time step foot on the property.

This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 8:20 am
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27058 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:23 am to
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You a TN PLA? Got something to discuss with you.


Nah, gave that up a few years back, but I'll help where I can or get you in touch with someone that can. I think your wife and I friends on FB, so hit me up through there.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2327 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:25 am to
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You mean all those houses that never flooded until this new type of development started?


I agree, your opinion is about as good as Biden's. Tell me when there was a storm that had 32" of rain in 3 days. Or how about a storm that had 12-14" of rain in 6 hours. and don't say 1983 because that was 14" over about 24 hours. If you don't discuss actual rainfall rates for flooding events, you are just like everyone else using anecdotal evidence. A majority of the same houses would have flooded in 2016 and May 2021 even if another development wasn't built since 1987.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30540 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:28 am to
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Not sure why zoning would encourage an actual wet pond over a dry area that can retain water in a storm. The dry ones are far easier to maintain long term.

They look okay when they are new, but they often get neglected and end up looking like shite after about 10-15 years.

“And over here, you have a beautiful view of the neighborhood mud pit” - doesn’t have the same ring to it as neighborhood retention pond. Nobody wants a muddy pit behind them, the water in the pond covers up the muddy mess underneath
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32087 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:39 am to
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You do have some larger HOAs in BR and they aren't the problems.



The Lake Sherwood area seems to have maintained their retention lake as a real neighborhood asset. That’s an older, more high end neighborhood though.

Most of the new stuff in the BR metro that’s being built on land that isn’t extremely flood prone are smaller in-fill developments that are less than 20-30 homes. Larger developments in AP or EBR are fairly rare these days. Just not a lot of massive plots that are appropriate for development around anymore.

WBR has one that is almost built out now in Brusly. Another in the planning stages nearby closer to Port Allen. But otherwise I can’t think of any that are comparable to the large developments you see in the Houston or Dallas suburbs. Don’t expect many of them in the Baton Rouge suburbs until they start building highways again.

Sherwood Forest, Broadmoor, Hickory Ridge, Shenandoah, Spring Lake, Lexington, and U Club arr like that…but the days of those massive developments in southern East Baton Rouge are starting to come to an end as we run out of land that isn’t prone to regular flooding. In fact we’ve had a couple of golf courses in those older neighborhoods end up closing down and getting developed.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 8:49 am
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:47 am to
Keep telling yourself its taking that much rain to cause flooding problems. Its not. Retention ponds are a cheap scam sold to people for maximum profit and are directly liable for billions in damages.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 8:50 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25309 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:56 am to
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“And over here, you have a beautiful view of the neighborhood mud pit” - doesn’t have the same ring to it as neighborhood retention pond. Nobody wants a muddy pit behind them, the water in the pond covers up the muddy mess underneath



We've got a dry water retention area near my house that is used as a soccer field during the dry season. Looks great. It's basically a sodded field that's about 5-6 feet lower than the surrounding area. It only fills up with water 2-3 times a year in major rain events, and takes a few days to fully drain. Really is a nice neighborhood amenity for everyone and keeps the neighborhood from overwhelming the nearby creek when we have these really hard rain events in late winter and sometimes in the summer.

That beats the hell out of a dingy retention pond that gets neglected and filled with critters. We have a few of those along the golf course too. The HOA had to install bubblers to keep them from getting stagnant. Some of the kids try to play hockey on them during the winter and sometimes fall through the ice.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25309 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:58 am to
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This is TD. I'm not saying we're all geniuses


Some of the posters here couldn't pour water out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57426 posts
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:13 am to
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You guys can keep your McMansion subdivisions and HOAs.
you live in Oklahoma.
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