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lsu13lsu
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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IMO i do think HOAs need to plant for this BUT i do not agree the blame for not, should be passed to the engineers and or developer.


The Developer runs the HOA and sets the budgets, Dues and Rules before turning it over to the unsuspecting homeowners who thought the Dues would cover all expenses. A picture is painted and when the Developer leaves the homeowners are left with the problems.

My only argument is above and the Developer is financially motivated to not have Dues set high and make things look as rosy as possible for new homeowners.


lsu13lsu
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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On the ground survey data of the site and downstream facilities is being used as the basis for design. Capacity of downstream facilities is calculated from that on the ground survey. Flows from the site and surrounding areas contributing to the flow in the downstream facilities is based on design storms. Major streams that have USGS gauge and flow data can be used to confirm capacity and flow.




Thank you


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CarRamrod
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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The Developer runs the HOA and sets the budgets, Dues and Rules before turning it over to the unsuspecting homeowners who thought the Dues would cover all expenses. A picture is painted and when the Developer leaves the homeowners are left with the problems.
haha keep playing victims. When buying your home, are you accounting for you needing to replace the AC 5-15 years in? if you say yes, you are lying.


lsu13lsu
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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haha keep playing victims. When buying your home, are you accounting for you needing to replace the AC 5-15 years in? if you say yes, you are lying.


when people buy their home they expect to have to maintain their home. they are not expected to turn into engineers and lawyers and run HOAs.

Maybe I am different.


lsu13lsu
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
Actually people are not even expected to maintain their homes anymore and that is the reason HOAs got so popular. So now we are expecting these people to maintain drainage?


CarRamrod
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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Actually people are not even expected to maintain their homes anymore and that is the reason HOAs got so popular. So now we are expecting these people to maintain drainage?

does your HOA not bring in experts to help with issues they have? Or do they just expect for it to take care of itself? Do you bring in someone to fix your roof after these hurricanes, or do you just expect the builder/engineer to come back and fix it?


Look i get your gripe, i lived on a pond for years and urged the HOA to do maintenance on the pond before the issue became to great, to no avail. But you are placing blame in the wrong direction.


lsu13lsu
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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does your HOA not bring in experts to help with issues they have? Or do they just expect for it to take care of itself? Do you bring in someone to fix your roof after these hurricanes, or do you just expect the builder/engineer to come back and fix it?


Most HOAs are ran based on a budget that is set based on Dues that were set by Developer. I am sure every HOA would want to bring in experts and have everything ran without a care in the world as far as money goes.


CarRamrod
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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Most HOAs are ran based on a budget that is set based on Dues that were set by Developer
wait.... do you think those are set in stone? they can be updated and changed.
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I am sure every HOA would want to bring in experts and have everything ran without a care in the world as far as money goes.
and a properly ran HOA can easily get loans for bigger expenses. hell the last one i was in got a 250k loan to replace the fence along a major thoroughfare. They paid it back in a few years.


djangochained
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
I’m getting ready to dredge a pond in my SD that has not been maintained for 20 plus years. The cost will be around 65k and will be shared by all homeowners


jimbeam
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
Because I am not part of an HOA and don’t know, can this not be changed? Can a 50 home subdivision HOA not say “hey we need $10,000 this year we’re proposing assessing a $200 yearly fee”?


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djangochained
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
Of course


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LSUengr
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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Can a 50 home subdivision HOA not say “hey we need $10,000 this year we’re proposing assessing a $200 yearly fee”?


Depends on the HOA docs. Most newer ones are set up to where a majority vote of the members in attendance at an official HOA meeting can change the assessment.


CarRamrod
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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I’m getting ready to dredge a pond in my SD that has not been maintained for 20 plus years. The cost will be around 65k and will be shared by all homeowners


to be honest. that doesnt sound too bad. have you looked into loans to spread the cost out over a few years. id like to talk with you about all of that. I question what will they do with the spoil, is it contaminated, etc.


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CarRamrod
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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Depends on the HOA docs. Most newer ones are set up to where a majority vote of the members in attendance at an official HOA meeting can change the assessment.


if for some, completely odd, reason rules can not be changes, dissolve that mother fricker and rewrite the bylaws.


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elprez00
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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Do you bitch at engineers whenever you don’t take care of your housing systems? HOAs are on the hook to maintain these systems. Period.

Most of the time the maintenance of these is never set up properly or even discussed with HOAs once established. Therein lies the issue.

You don’t know what you don’t know.


CarRamrod
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Spurbury, VT
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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Most of the time the maintenance of these is never set up properly or even discussed with HOAs once established. Therein lies the issue.

You don’t know what you don’t know.
again.....is every maintenance item listed out in your house contract?


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BottomlandBrew
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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Most of the time the maintenance of these is never set up properly or even discussed with HOAs once established. Therein lies the issue.


It should be discussed as the plan is filed with the parish. I just pulled up an old stormwater management plan I submitted to EBR. Part of the requirements for plan approval is the following:

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Executed and recorded “Private Water Quality Maintenance Covenants” (PWQMC) will be required for all BMPs onsite prior to construction plan approval.
This post was edited on 9/14 at 12:21 pm


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The Implication
south philly
Member since Sep 2019
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
Q = ((Pg - 0.2S)^2) / (Pg + 0.8S)

Do you even NRCS curve number


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Galactic Inquisitor
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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thats just not true.


I'm going to avoid calling out firms by name here, but there are 2 very prevalent firms in Baton Rouge that turn in absolute trash models regularly.


CarRamrod
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re: How years of storm water pond construction are causing issues in Baton Rouge metro area
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very prevalent firms in Baton Rouge that turn in absolute trash models regularly.

thats different than
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Firms often do extremely inadequate validation and calibration of their models, as they are more interested in giving their client, the developer, the answer they need for approval than giving them the correct answer.
if you have proof of the latter, you should submit it to Lapels.

As an old professor of mine use to say, a shite model gives shite results. And if these are going against code why havent you reported them?


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