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re: How dumb do you have to be to not understand common core?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:18 pm to Tigerfan56
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:18 pm to Tigerfan56
I like how every single discussion about Common Core focuses exclusively on math. I'd say don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I'm not sure if most of you are aware that there is a baby.
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:18 pm to Tigerfan56
Must be a democrat
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:19 pm to ILikeLSUToo
God forbid kids these days sit down and memorize anything. Oh, the horror.
Please.
Please.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:19 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Exactly.
Public school entitled-educator foolishness.
I'll be honest, I haven't looked at the situation closely, but my general impression is very poor.
Public school entitled-educator foolishness.
I'll be honest, I haven't looked at the situation closely, but my general impression is very poor.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:20 pm to ULSU
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I think most people understand there are different methods that work for each individual, but common core makes kids do it this way. That is the bullshite. Hey kid, you got the answer right but we're not counting it because you didn't show the 92 steps it took (with this silly methodology)
This is my problem with it. Neighbor kid got every single question right on his math homework, like 10 questions. They were marked wrong because the questions were worded as "about how many" and "around what time". If the answer is 94 and a kid puts 94, how is that wrong?
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I'd say don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I'm not sure if most of you are aware that there is a baby.
From what I've seen, most of it isn't bad...but the math is pretty shitty.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:23 pm to Robin Masters
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Because its a logical way of taking a complex problem and breaking it down into more manageable pieces which you can use, thanks to a greater understanding of place value, to basically do most simple math in your head. I think it also allows the student to gain a control and mastery of math concepts at a younger age. Normally the students would be simply memorizing and writing out long math problems which is completely useless with the accessibility of calculators.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:25 pm to gatorrocks
The top 26 aren't the ones who need this though.
I never had much of a problem with math (until differential equations this semester anyway) but I can definitely see where the new method can be handy. They're teaching the old method still but are teaching these steps as a precursor. I honestly think it'll help in the long run.
I never had much of a problem with math (until differential equations this semester anyway) but I can definitely see where the new method can be handy. They're teaching the old method still but are teaching these steps as a precursor. I honestly think it'll help in the long run.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:29 pm to DCtiger1
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Not all students learn in the same way. This method does not do a better job of teaching the basic concepts of math.
Absolutely. Which is one of the cardinal precepts of education, different people learn in very different ways. Cognitively and culturally, we learn much differently than the other fella. In a classroom, that may mean presenting material 4-5 different ways.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:29 pm to BRgetthenet
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God forbid kids these days sit down and memorize anything. Oh, the horror.
Is your criticism really that you would prefer students to memorize something than understand it? Because that's what it sounds like to me.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:30 pm to ULSU
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common core makes kids do it this way. That is the bullshite. Hey kid, you got the answer right but we're not counting it because you didn't show the 92 steps it took
I question the truth of that.
The way I understood common core was that it went heavily into the fundamentals behind ordinary rote operations. I doubt students are 'required' to do all their math this way. But perhaps they are required to demonstrate that they understand this particular concept.
Nothing wrong with that. The more natural you can make math fundamentals the better.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:37 pm to Tigerfan56
That is the most ridiculous shite I have ever seen in my life.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:38 pm to Tigerfan56
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How dumb do you have to be to not understand common core?
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58-27=?
27+3=30
30+20=50
50+8=58
Answer is 3+20+8=31
Or you could just know 8-7 and 5-2.
Teaching 3 math equations you have to do to reach a fourth math equation which when solved yields the results to the first math equation is teaching different ways to the answer without teaching how to actually solve the problem.
The way to solve 58-27 is to subtract. You need to know that building block because eventually you need to know how to do it for more complicated issues.
Teaching the long ways around simple subtraction just seems wrong to me.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:39 pm to Breesus
They teach it in simple subtraction so they can effectively use it for harder problems.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:39 pm to Tigerfan56
It makes perfect sense, and it's still the dumbest fricking thing I've ever seen, how does this help anyone to better conceptualizer the distance between points?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:40 pm to Tigerfan56
OP, how dumb do you have to be not to understand split infinitives?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:42 pm to Breesus
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Teaching the long ways around simple subtraction just seems wrong to me
My thoughts exactly
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:42 pm to Tigerfan56
What the frick is common core. Always been sharp in math. But I have never heard of this
I'm 32. TIA
I'm 32. TIA
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:43 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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They teach it in simple subtraction so they can effectively use it for harder problems.
The thing in the OP is not simple subtraction
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:47 pm to Breesus
All I see is different math problems that any moron should be able to do in their head. Even at a young age. Don't understand the 3+20+8. Have no idea where that comes from
Edit. I see now. That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. That doesn't teach anything new. Just makes it retarded. Dumbin it down more America.
Edit. I see now. That is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. That doesn't teach anything new. Just makes it retarded. Dumbin it down more America.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:55 pm to potent357
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If you have 58 of something, and you take away 27 of them, you are left with 31 of them. Why do you need to got through all of the other steps to do this?
Because one day you will have to use this logic to solve much more complicated problems. You need to learn the ability to plug in equivalent arguments in this manner to solve some problems. Doing it on these smaller easier to understand problems teaches a kid to look for the solution that way all the while knowing they have the safety net of knowing the solution through the standard method. Solving multiple dimensional problems with multiple unknown variables is solved nust this way. You can do this (obviously with some additional math concepts such as trig), you can pass statics, which is the first weed out class for an engineer.
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