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re: How dumb do you have to be to not understand common core?

Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:12 pm to
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Most adults will admit that they are weak in math.

So it seems logical that the way most of us learned math isn't that great. Or even good?




Uh, I took 6 college calculus courses at Auburn with a 4.0 in them. The new way of simple addition is just overly complicating something simple. Someone that doesn't understand how to carry over a 1 won't be able to figure out how to add a shite load of other stuff and then add all the shite loads of other stuff together to get an answer.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:22 pm to
I'm bad at math, but common core is just useless to teach to anyone over the 1st grade, and of course they immediately forget about it, as they should. It's a retards way of doing math. I could look at the OP's problem and figure it out in 1 second, and I feel very dumb when it comes to math.
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
2656 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:28 pm to
A bunch of retards in this thread. Common core math is how math should be taught. All it is at a basic level is teaching what should be going on in your brain when looking at a math problem. It might make "simple" math a little bit longer, but it is building towards making math quicker, easier, adaptable, and easier to understand.

I'm loling pretty hard at all the people who say math is meant to be memorized. Can some of you really not see the bigger picture.

All common core has done when taught from an early age is allow younger kids to do more complicated math than with the "traditional" way. With common core you have some kindergartners doing double digit math. The "traditional way" you start doing that in what 3rd grade?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:05 pm to
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Most adults will admit that they are weak in math.

So it seems logical that the way most of us learned math isn't that great. Or even good?

Like the OP said, if the samples given don't make sense, there's a good chance that we, as a whole, don't understand math very well, based upon the way we learned it.

But hard to give up something that we barely understand.

Your logic is flawed in several ways. Some people are weak in math, and others are good at it. So no, there is no reason to completely purge the old way of teaching when so many of the population does fine with it.

Secondly, quite a few of us in this thread alone said "we get it", but think that it's too many steps compared to simple subtraction.

Overall, the OP was being a smartass troll making an assumption that people are upset because they don't know how to do it. That's not true. People are mad because there's no reason to change.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:07 pm to
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Uh, I took 6 college calculus courses at Auburn with a 4.0 in them. The new way of simple addition is just overly complicating something simple. Someone that doesn't understand how to carry over a 1 won't be able to figure out how to add a shite load of other stuff and then add all the shite loads of other stuff together to get an answer.



Seriously, so long as I have a pen, I could add anything quicker than someone who does common core.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:19 am to
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Most adults will admit that they are weak in math.



I'm an engineer and I think the CC way of teaching basic math is unnecessary.

Most people will never go beyond Algebra/Geometry in HS. Some may have basic trig and calculus in HS.

Breaking down a basic math problem in 4 steps to achieve the same result one can get in 1 step is overkill. This isn't a complex multi-dimensional calculus problem where you need to show your work throughout to your final solution, it's simple addition and subtraction.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 10:20 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30760 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:27 am to
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Breaking down a basic math problem in 4 steps to achieve the same result one can get in 1 step is overkill. This isn't a complex multi-dimensional calculus problem where you need to show your work throughout to your final solution, it's simple addition and subtraction.


but but but common core teaches critical thinking.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:28 am to
You can't teach critical thinking. I think that's the problem. Some people's brains are wired that way. Some aren't.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
48892 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:28 am to


It does not.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30760 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:42 am to
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You can't teach critical thinking. I think that's the problem. Some people's brains are wired that way. Some aren't.



Well that's what the "big plan" is for common core. Problem is, as you've stated, you can't teach critical thinking.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26548 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:48 am to
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You don't get what the big deal with the CC math is because you aren't in your 40's spending 2 hours trying to help a 3rd grader with math homework every night.

OMG, you have to work with you kids doing homework. The horror.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21756 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:02 am to
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why do 4 math problems when you can do one?
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
2656 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:27 am to
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why do 4 math problems when you can do one?


for simple problems it might be an extra step or 2, but for 57 -39 for example. The traditional way you are already breaking it down into multiple problems by carrying the 1.

5 - 1
7 + 10
17 - 8
4 - 3
10 + 9
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:29 am to
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Answer is 3+20+8=31

Holy hell what happened to taking the ones place (8-7=1) then taking the tens place (5-2=3) then putting them in their respective spot.
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:36 am to
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fightin tigers


5-2, 8-7, doesn't get much simpler than that, even carrying and borrowing isn't as much work as common core...
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10979 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:37 am to
quote:

How dumb do you have to be to not understand common core?

No kids
No care
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
88042 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:44 am to
quote:

for simple problems it might be an extra step or 2, but for 57 -39 for example. The traditional way you are already breaking it down into multiple problems by carrying the 1.

5 - 1
7 + 10
17 - 8
4 - 3
10 + 9
Not really. You can just do backwards addition.
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
2656 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 11:49 am to
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Not really. You can just do backwards addition.


ahhhhhh! yes you can. which is common core!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
88042 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

which is common core!
No it's not.
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