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re: How does this happen?
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:55 am to Ostrich
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:55 am to Ostrich
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Supply and demand
Also, the standardized pay scale for teachers is BS. Better teachers should be paid more than bad teachers
Teaching in inner cities and poor rural areas is usually harder and lower paying than suburbs. Better teachers get hired away by suburban districts with better pay. Inner cities and rural districts are left with subs filling vacancies, new teachers, weak teachers going through the motions and a few who really want to change the world. There are some districts, like Miami, that pay highly effective teachers 10-20k extra if they go in to the poorest schools. So there is supply and demand forces at play in Teaching.
Teachers in the suburbs often do fine, teachers in most inner cities and rural areas struggle. Same things are happening with LEOs and Fire Fighters.
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:02 am to bad93ex
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:04 am to 3nOut
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Let me introduce you to no child left behind.
I just don't see how that's tied to the teacher's performance. The program certainly has it's issues with basing everything off of metrics. It's a disservice to the schools. My father retired early due to how they handled things. Kids wouldn't be suspended/expelled when they should be since that would keep the reported numbers down for the school to get a better "grade". But that doesn't change that a principal can recognize that teacher A is more valuable than teacher B.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:22 am to Loup
They get paid for 9 months. They have their pay spread out over 12 months. They don’t get paid for the summer, or holidays, etc. They get paid for 187 day work contract. They don’t get paid for Christmas, Spring Break, etc.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:29 am to bad93ex
It largely depends on the location, starting salaries can range from $32k-$52k depending on the state (and then vary after that), (there are other sites showing different numbers, but they aren't too far off)
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:38 am to 427Nova
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Who are the better teachers? What matrix do you use? How about the teacher that has kids who’s parents are drug attics, who has homeless kids in their class, who have abused kids sexually in their class, who has kids with both parents in prison and live with grandma, who never has clean clothes, who never has new clothes or clothes with holes in them? You take teachers from good school and put them in the worst schools and you won’t see much difference or put teachers in worst schools in the best schools and you won’t see much difference. Parents have more to do with eduction than the teacher. They spend $32,000 on Baltimore kids and not 1 is proficient in math out of 23 HS. It’s the parents and the environment. Too many variables to blame teacher. They take what walks through the door.
Obviously you can't compare teachers in rich suburban schools vs teachers in inner city schools. But you should be able to compare teachers within the same schools against each other and find trends where students of certain teachers are outperforming others.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:41 am to bad93ex
quote:More than likely living above their means.
How does this happen?
But in a broader sense, teachers are underpaid because teachers accept jobs for less pay than they should, or think they should.
If all these people and others changed fields like they should if their issue was truly and 100% from not being paid well as a teacher(it likely isn't but go with me) then there would be a teacher shortage, and in order to get more teachers salary offers would rise. Tada!!
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:42 am to bad93ex
1&3 don't seem to be missing any meals.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:44 am to BowDownToLSU
quote:That plus 2 of the pics in the OP said they had 16 & 20 years of experience.
What about the part where they get paid during summer without having to work?
I simply do not believe you can't live a modest life as a teacher with that much experience.
Why does that one with 16 years experience need TWO additional jobs? She's likely living way above her means.
Life isn't fair, not everyone gets the nice, big house. Some people have to settle in on the modest apartment in the average but not even bad part of town. It is what it is...some folks don't want to accept that though.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 10:57 am to shel311
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Life isn't fair, not everyone gets the nice, big house. Some people have to settle in on the modest apartment in the average but not even bad part of town. It is what it is...some folks don't want to accept that though.
Same for high cost of living areas. If you choose to live in a high cost of living area, that’s on you. Tons of people feel they have a right to live wherever they want and be offered comparable housing everywhere. That’s not how it works though. Affordable housing in desirable areas is not a right. If you can’t afford San Francisco, move somewhere you can afford
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:05 am to ruzil
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My sister (no pics) who was a teacher in St James Parish was forced to get a Masters Degree late in her career.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:07 am to bad93ex
frick them. My youngest is getting on with brfd and his future wife is a teacher in LP. They make a good living
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:08 am to shel311
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Why does that one with 16 years experience need TWO additional jobs?
she has to have the two additional jobs to work the entire year.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:09 am to bad93ex
Being a teacher is a known struggle. You know what you’re getting into from day one of college, so don’t complain
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:13 am to bad93ex
My best friend growing up and his wife are both teachers. He's got a house on a slew on the Tennesee River, Boat, and a kid.
And his wife teaches k-6
And his wife teaches k-6
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 11:21 am
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:15 am to bad93ex
Im a teacher in america and am about to be almost completely debt free (minus car and public student loans) after only year 5 and will likely buy my first house within the next year.
These people are just stupid.
These people are just stupid.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 11:16 am
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:17 am to BowDownToLSU
quote:this doesnt happen. Contracts are 10 months paid out over 12.
What about the part where they get paid during summer without having to work?
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:17 am to Pedro
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These people are just stupid.
They need to teach themselves money management since nobody teaches it in schools.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:18 am to bad93ex
If the one in the middle would lose her McGut, she might be able to earn enough OnlyFans bucks to pay for a doctor visit.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:18 am to bad93ex
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How does this happen?
Unions, federalized educational system
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