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re: How do you handle friends with fundamental differences regarding morality?

Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by TigerHam85
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:44 pm to
The most intelligent person on earth right now an arguable the most intelligent person to ever live said

"I remain unconvinced by any claims anyone has ever made about the existence or the power of a divine force operating in the universe."

I'll go with him.
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:45 pm to
What about those of us who don't care if god exists or not? Where do we fit? I have zero reason to believe a god does exist but even if I'm wrong, I wouldn't follow him anyway. I've read the bible, I even hand copied a good bit of it in after school dentition, and the guy that book is written about is an a-hole.

For me it's not about believing in the christian god. Whether or not he exists is irrelevant because the christian god is not an example I would follow.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

The most intelligent person on earth right now an arguable the most intelligent person to ever live said

"I remain unconvinced by any claims anyone has ever made about the existence or the power of a divine force operating in the universe."

I'll go with him.


I'm sticking with Thomas Aquinas.
Posted by TigerHam85
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Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:48 pm to
Fortunately we live in a country where you can do that.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:48 pm to
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Its stupid and arrogant to think a simple human thats practically a tiny tiny spec on the radar of human history can act like they know the truth about something so very large and all-encompassing.


But you are using God as your truth.

God, or gods, have always been a catchall way of explaining the unexplainable. It's a way for those who don't know or don't understand to explain how or why something occurs, without admitting that they don't know or understand.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:48 pm to
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I'll go with him.


You are putting your faith in a man. That's a bad bet.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:48 pm to
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For me it's not about believing in the christian god. Whether or not he exists is irrelevant because the christian god is not an example I would follow.


It's not this simple. I do think God comes off very harsh, especially in the old testament, but there are reasons for that. The Bible doesn't stand alone, and no where on the Bible does it make the claim that it does. I find the Bible to be much more beautiful in the hands of the Catholic Church. And I find that if you are looking for examples to follow, read the lives of many incredible Saints of the Catholic Church. After all, those saints have one goal. Union with that God you think is an a-hole.
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9531 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:50 pm to
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If they don't believe in god, I pray to god that they die a horrible death.


so, an Old Testament Christian
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:50 pm to
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That aside, what you call a gnostic atheist is almost always a complete douchebag in my experience, and is the main population of r/atheism and any other online community of atheists.


I completely agree. The neckbeards on /r/atheism are the worst.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Member since Nov 2012
10308 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:52 pm to
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so, an Old Testament Christian


Nope, New New Testatment. We should go back to burning the heretics. JC would be appalled at the stuff we allow to transpire these days. I mean seriously, free fricking healthcare and Obamaphones?
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:56 pm to
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It's not this simple. I do think God comes off very harsh, especially in the old testament, but there are reasons for that. The Bible doesn't stand alone, and no where on the Bible does it make the claim that it does. I find the Bible to be much more beautiful in the hands of the Catholic Church. And I find that if you are looking for examples to follow, read the lives of many incredible Saints of the Catholic Church. After all, those saints have one goal. Union with that God you think is an a-hole.



Wtf?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:57 pm to
Dated a girl from georgia, her family were fans of the falcons and alabama. I never got past that.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
40532 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 3:58 pm to
People who don't have faith in God are people I don't really care to hang out with, and they seem to push their agenda more than the diehard christians.

eta: and they're almost always untrustworthy
This post was edited on 8/20/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:01 pm to
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And the lazy atheist with just embarrassingly awful reasons for not believing in God.


Why must one have a reason to not believe in God?
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:03 pm to
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People who don't have faith in God are people I don't really care to hang out with, and they seem to push their agenda more than the diehard christians.


Agreed. Atheists are always making generalizations too, which is annoying and dumb. frick them.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:04 pm to
I don't want to be friends with people who are wrong on big issues
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:04 pm to
Agree to disagree, but I think we should have reasons for everything we do, especially if we are holding a belief that disagrees with 95% of every man to ever live. If you are choosing to believe that the vast majority of mankind has been wrong, you best have some reasoning.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40156 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:04 pm to
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Why must one have a reason to not believe in God?


This is one thing about the whole "God" discussion that amuses me. Vocal believers try to put the burden of proof on non-believers, when that isn't how this whole "logic" thing works.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56828 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:06 pm to
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To be fair, she also toes the line as a Buddhist and we share some mutual views regarding Eastern philosophy.



Well that is a little different than just being an atheist in my opinion.
Posted by Barf
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Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 8/20/15 at 4:06 pm to
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People who don't have faith in God are people I don't really care to hang out with, and they seem to push their agenda more than the diehard christians.

eta: and they're almost always untrustworthy


This is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Do you quiz your friends? Have you ever actually read the bible?
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