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re: How difficult is it to get your kid into a military service academy

Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3216 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:07 pm to
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ETA: i had okay grades in high school. 3.4 GPA, wasn’t top 10%. However, I did take part in a ton of extra-curriculars though and also had a lot of volunteering. Not by choice, my mom made me do it all


Parents are a BIG part; My boys would laugh and joke 'my mamas tougher than most drill Sargents'.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:08 pm to
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You can go the ROTC route, have a normal college experience


I was in NROTC for two years and we all wished we could wear the uniform more than twice a week b/c it is very true that some women just love a guy in uniform. I was really kind of an average joe most of the time but got hit on more times than I can count when I was in uniform.

Second the Coast Guard recommendation by the way. The CG doesn't get as much love but their jobs are generally more interesting and geared toward serving the public directly, plus you get to spend time with your family more.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79841 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:09 pm to
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You better give a large donation to a politician

Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3216 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:10 pm to
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As strange as this may sound, the academies are pretty liberal. Even though the vast majority of the military is conservative leaning.


You got this right, my boys tell me it's all PC at USAFA.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3216 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:12 pm to
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You better give a large donation to a politician


Not true, my boys got in and we were NOT politically connected. One was nominated by a Republican and the other by a Democrat Representative here in California.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10449 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:17 pm to
Helps if you have a letter of recommendation from both your Congressman AND Senator. FYI Doesn't take a political connection, but it does take a solid application/good resume
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79841 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:20 pm to
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Not true, my boys got in and we were NOT politically connected. One was nominated by a Republican and the other by a Democrat Representative here in California.



There are several ways. A large donation is one.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
3216 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:24 pm to
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Helps if you have a letter of recommendation from both your Congressman AND Senator. FYI Doesn't take a political connection, but it does take a solid application/good resume


A good interview with the local Academy liaison will go a mile without connections. Often these interviews go over an hour. The people want to know your kids are committed and have the right values. They often ask the same question 2-3 different ways and take copious notes, they can smell BS.
Posted by amgslg
Member since Jun 2014
416 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:31 pm to
Of the boys I know who have made it, not a one was politically connected or rich or made any donations. Just stellar resumes.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:38 pm to
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As strange as this may sound, the academies are pretty liberal. Even though the vast majority of the military is conservative leaning.


Not really. Enlisted tends to be pretty conservative. Officers are more of a mixed bag.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
40228 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:42 pm to
Don't get all wrapped up in the Service Academies, have a plan be B, C, D....

ROTC Scholarships are extremely competitive, but it affords the opportunity to have a life. Tulane, for example, combines a Merit Scholarship for room and board. That's not common, btw. Start preparation earlier than they say.

Also, don't forget the Guard, maybe the best deal in the Military, esp if your kid wants to fly. I joined after HS, they basically paid my way through LSU.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21086 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:36 pm to
There's only one statement that has no bias:

By the time you make Captain (Lieutenant for Navy), every advantage you might have had from your precommissioning source is gone and you are all considered at the same level. The aforementioned advantages may help or hinder you going forward depending on who your senior rater (Boss' boss) is.

Your promotion to O4 and beyond is only about 30% dependent on your performance and 70% dependent on factors you have no control over.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:39 pm to
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Second the Coast Guard recommendation by the way.


third
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29133 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:42 pm to
A friend’s son is starting at the naval academy in the fall. He has stellar academics and has made it well known throughout high school that that was what he wanted to do. He wrote letters and arranged meetings and interviews for a couple years. But it has to be the boy’s mission, not the parent’s mission. And quite frankly, I have no idea what made the difference for this kid, but he is absolutely solid as a person and a student.

They are not politically connected.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 7:44 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15818 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:48 pm to
My dad went to West Point. During the Gulf War Gen Schwarzkopf was on TV giving a presser. My dad said I went to WP with that general. I bet he's a hell of a general. I said whys that? Dad said because he was real prick in college
Posted by BeastMode
Member since Sep 2007
198 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:54 pm to
I went to the Air Force Academy for a year, hen wisened up and dropped out and did ROTC at LSU. I’m in the same spot as all my Academy peers, just one year later.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
4097 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:56 pm to
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the kid who was nominated had failed his physical

Had this happen to one of my students—the girl had everything done in order to attend, but some obscure med condition found at the last minute prevented her from attending the Air Force Academy. You definitely need to read the fine print before going through the entire application process, really felt bad for the kid after jumping through all of those hoops.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3662 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 8:08 pm to
Merchant Marine Academy and Coast Guard are the best options. MMA allows for commission in any branch(AD, Guard, or Reserve) or go be a merchant marine.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
8534 posts
Posted on 5/25/18 at 9:22 pm to
Asthma is a no go.
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