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re: How close do you feel we are to a full societal collapse as a nation?

Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:35 pm to
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Counting backwards in roughly 20 year increments, it's hard to find a time the country has ever gone more than 25 years without dramatic change. I'd consider Covid one of those times. 20 years before that you had 9/11. 10 before that was the end of the Cold War. 20 years before that was the Vietnam War and the civil rights movement. 25 years before that was WWII and the beginning of the nuclear age. The Great Depression before that, and on and on.

Going 20 years without dramatic change is the exception, not the rule.



Rogan says the poles are gonna shift
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8134 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:54 pm to
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Police command ordered confiscation of citizen’s legal weapons leaving them defenseless against roving mobs.


Link?
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16218 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:14 pm to
June 3rd, 2027.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15878 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:39 am to
BUMP
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85659 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:41 am to
It almost happened last night courtesy of the left.

If they had killed the presumptive president you would have woke up in a different country today. It would be over.




This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:57 am
Posted by tigerinexile
The greatest parish
Member since Sep 2004
1518 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:46 am to
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quote: Police command ordered confiscation of citizen’s legal weapons leaving them defenseless against roving mobs. Link?


Didn’t that happen after Katrina?
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36439 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:54 am to
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Authoritarianism is the near-term danger, not collapse.


Agreed.

Ben Hunt posted an old article of his on X this morning/yesterday, and I liked the framework he put together about our political tension.

There's a common knowledge everyone into politics has, and that is the Other Party is a direct threat to the wellbeing of America and american democracy.

What wouldnt you be willing to do to stop Hitler in 1932 or Lenin in 1917?

To the point I worry too many would agree to some authoritarian shite to stop the feared authoritarian intentions of the otherside.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:52 am to
Very close. One election away
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:57 am to
Realistically we are less than 20 years away from a forced split.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18692 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:58 am to
It’ll happen when they come for our guns. Anybody’s guess as to when that’ll be. Election results will dictate timeline.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:10 am to
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It seems we have never been more vulnerable than we are currently as a nation


I can think of several times which were worse.

quote:

When does the bubble burst? Do you believe we’ll see anarchy in our lifetimes?


Brother, even during the fall of Rome, wide segments of the population did not see 'anarchy.' Some of you people desperately need to read.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465496 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:13 am to
I see the fear mongering you consume has made you lose rationality and you're full on emotional thinker.

You should examine why you've let yourself get to this point and make some changes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465496 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:14 am to
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Realistically we are less than 20 years away from a forced split.

Will never happen.

That will result in a Civil war and the entire global economy will crumble if that happens.

It just doesn't make any sense how you would even go about peacefully splitting up the #1 country on Earth.

We got into this yesterday about Louisiana specifically.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51043 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:18 am to
Outside of the extremist on the left and right.

The majority of people do not get sucked into these crazy debates and are just trying to live their lives.

I think social media provides the ability for people like the OP to reinforce his thoughts that everything is crumbling. When in reality that is still such a small percentage of people in this country that share those viewpoints.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
9694 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:23 am to
I wish idiots like you would just go away and stop fear-mongering.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33460 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:25 am to
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Realistically we are less than 20 years away from a forced split.



This is absolutely the correct take. Idk how anyone can think otherwise. There are just so many fundamental differences between both sides. It might take longer than 20 years, though
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465496 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:28 am to
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There are just so many fundamental differences between both sides. It might take longer than 20 years, though

The primary split is Rural v. everywhere else.

Just imagine the geographical issues with a "split" where metro areas and suburbs split into nations. Are we going old school to city-states?
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33460 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:50 am to
I just don’t know how we ever go back to more moderate based political parties. Because of social media, the radicals on both sides, it just doesn’t lend itself to proper discussion and thinking. And I think even after Trump/Biden, you’ll continue to see the extremes and boundaries being pushed in each new election


I hope I’m wrong. But it seems like both sides wish to cause further and further divide between the American people
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26388 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:51 am to
About an inch.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465496 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 11:54 am to
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I just don’t know how we ever go back to more moderate based political parties.

People stop being emotional idiots, for starters.

Splitting the US up won't solve that problem. You'll just see new in/out groups.

If you want a recent example, look at all the debasing of themselves Trump supporters/MAGA did with DeSantis during the primaries.
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