re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?

Posted by 24nights

North of I10

Member since Apr 2012

5246 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:47 pm to ghost2most

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JFC you rednecks are so fricking dumb

Sounds like someone needs a forty and a fatty, you ok homie?

Posted by Cosmo

glassman's guest house

Member since Oct 2003

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Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:48 pm to hubertcumberdale

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Can we all not agree it should be much more difficult to get a hold of a gun if it’s documented you are mentally unstable ?

Who gets to decide who is unstable?

Posted by stout

Porte du Lafitte

Member since Sep 2006

179185 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:49 pm to hubertcumberdale

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You are comparing kids getting murdered to drug addicts overdosing?

Well, to be fair many guns used in daily shootings in cities like Chicago, NOLA, etc are all coming across the same border fentanyl is coming across. Ask Obama about Fast and Furious and how many of those guns would up being used in crimes here in the USA.

Posted by jellyfish

Oxford, MS

Member since Oct 2009

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Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:51 pm to ghost2most

You are one stupid son of a bitch. Get fricked.

Posted by bayoubengals88

Member since Sep 2007

23479 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:52 pm to Tiger1242

If there is a correlation between mass shooters and the perceived meaninglessness of human existence, it should follow that we should seek to understand meaning.

Yet, as a society, we’ve all but rejected meaning by embracing science as if they are mutually exclusive when they are not.

Posted by Basura Blanco

Member since Dec 2011

11322 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:52 pm to ghost2most

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JFC you rednecks are so fricking dumb.

Yet you are the one correlating a mental insanity issue with a weapon issue. Since the 1950's, numerous laws limiting firearm sales and possession have been enacted. During the same time period, hundreds of thousands mentally ill people have been released/never been incarcerated in now shuttered state mental institutions.

Since the dawn of man, society has had nut jobs and weapons. Its only in the last 70 years we decided to release the mentally ill into society, while at the same time, blaming weapons when these mentally ill people used one to kill others.

But its the fricking rednecks with a gun who are dumb.

Posted by Baers Foot

Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns

Member since Dec 2011

3868 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:53 pm to armsdealer

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This was a bunch of kids, he could have killed just as many with pointy sticks.

Its not a gun problem, its a government/society problem.

It's a society problem exacerbated by the ease of access to guns by nutcases. And he wouldn't have evaded cops and made it to a locked down school with a pointy stick. Guns are a much more efficient and easier at committing mass violence than knives and blunt objects, that's a fact.

I'm typing this as someone that owns 7 guns.

This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 4:54 pm

Posted by Korkstand

Member since Nov 2003

29044 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:53 pm to Cosmo

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Who gets to decide who is unstable?

The "stable" folks intent on locking people up despite having committed no crimes.

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Posted by The Spleen

Member since Dec 2010

38865 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:54 pm to Tiger1242

The problem is the number of guns in this country, and how easily obtainable they are. Any solution will take years, if not decades, to bear fruit. We are not a patient country so there really isn’t solution. You just gotta hope it doesn’t land in your school, church, grocery store, movie theater, or anywhere else in public you lie to go.

This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 4:55 pm

Posted by OMLandshark

Member since Apr 2009

119977 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:55 pm to Tiger1242

Honestly, probably more good people with guns. The one good thing about Covid is it turned all of America into a bunch of gun nuts both on the Right and the Left. They're not going to legislate shite on that at least until the next generation takes power.

Posted by tigafan4life

Member since Dec 2006

50613 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:55 pm to ghost2most

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frick YOUR RIGHTS

Yikes. I know this may piss people off but my rights trump your feelings.

Posted by OMLandshark

Member since Apr 2009

119977 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:55 pm to The Spleen

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The problem is the number of guns in this country, and how easily obtainable they are. Any solution will take years, if not decades, to bear fruit. We are not a patient country so there really isn’t solution. You just gotta hope it doesn’t land in your school, church, grocery store, movie theater, or anywhere else in public you lie to go.

Shocking this is your position. If it weren't for guns, we'd be Australia under their tyranny.

Posted by WDE24

Member since Oct 2010

54836 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:56 pm to AUstar

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I think when someone makes a threat or acts strange (in a violent manner), they should get a 10 year commitment.

wow. Act strange and you get a 10 year commitment to a mental hospital? Yeah, I don’t want to live in that authoritarian hell.

Posted by OMLandshark

Member since Apr 2009

119977 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:56 pm to fallguy_1978

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Stop mentioning the shooter's name in the media for starters. That won't happen though

Yeah, this is a big one. I only remember the name of the South Carolina shooter, and I wish I could forget it. I've purged the rest of them out of my mind. Unless said shooter is at large, never report on their name or face.

Posted by The Spleen

Member since Dec 2010

38865 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:57 pm to OMLandshark

Okay. I didn’t say anything about banning guns or eliminating them from society.

Posted by Slagathor

Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny

Member since Jul 2007

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Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:57 pm to OMLandshark

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we'd be Australia under their tyranny

voting there is compulsory, so one could argue their laws more closely reflect their values (whether or not we agree with them)

Posted by Wabbit7

Member since Aug 2018

2266 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:57 pm to ghost2most

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frick you gun loving morons to fricking hell.

Yes this can be fricking fixed.

Every single weapon in this country should be registered.

Every single gun owner should have to pass meticulous screening.

Get caught with an unregistered gun and you get a life fricking sentence.

Release every drug offender from prison and lock up the illegal gun fricks.

frick YOUR RIGHTS

I'm sick of innocent children being gunned down so stupid fricking rednecks can pretend they're tough.

frick YOU

And for shootings carried out by illegally obtained guns?

Posted by stout

Porte du Lafitte

Member since Sep 2006

179185 posts

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:57 pm to The Spleen

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and how easily obtainable they are.

Especially when you have programs like Fast and Furious by Obama enabling criminals to get their hands on weapons so easily

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3. More than 2,000 guns were sold to suspected criminals thought to be linked to Mexican drug gangs in the two years of the operation under the Obama presidency.

LINK

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