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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?

Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15495 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:32 pm to
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America is broken. The media worsens the divide daily. We're beyond the point of repair.


Unfortunately…I think this is true, but it’s not just America.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
31542 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:32 pm to
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ghost2most


Thinks the only way to kill people is with a gun. What a fricking moron.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23016 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Ask yourself a simple question, what does every other developed nation have in common that the US does not?



Treat me like I'm stupid and just tell me.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24722 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:34 pm to
I guarantee you this will come down to mental issues with the shooter who should not have had a gun by law. We have a real issue in this world with mental health.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24225 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:34 pm to
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Can we all not agree it should be much more difficult to get a hold of a gun if it’s documented you are mentally unstable ?


Can we agree that law enforcement and the justice system would use this as a tool to take weapons from people for non legit reasons, such as political affiliation?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6673 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:34 pm to
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Uh yes it is, this wasn't a problem until the latter half of the 90s.



So for almost 30 years? That’s considered “new” to you?
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7018 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:35 pm to
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The classic response....punish all law abiding citizens and do nothing to stop the problem discussed in the OP.



How is it punishing law abiding citizens?

It's making a standard process for registering and owning deadly firearms.

These loser thugs with guns can get put away for life.

Would is stop all incidents? No, but it's a start and every law abiding citizen gets to keep their stupid fricking guns.

I have guns for the record and I'd be fine having to register them and prove I'm not insane.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7018 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:35 pm to
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Treat me like I'm stupid and just tell me.



Because there are millions of guns available. It should be a lot tougher to own a gun.
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
1844 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:36 pm to
Public hangings
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
31542 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:36 pm to
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have guns for the record and I'd be fine having to register them and prove I'm not insane.


Just make murder punishable by death and you’ll deter all the killings…oh wait.

Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7018 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:37 pm to
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So you are only cool with killing kids in the womb?



JFC you rednecks are so fricking dumb.

I'd gladly make abortion illegal if it meant getting guns off the street.

So we can all rejoice that another generation of black criminals won't be aborted. Yay
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
80851 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:37 pm to
Restore genuine community where people have a vested interest in taking care of THEIR mentally ill, looking out for the people falling through the cracks, that will step in to help avoid catastrophe from bad or absent parenting.

None of which will happen with an increasingly centralized country of 350m with few ties that bind. People need to take a renewed and first interest in their neighborhood, town, etc. and leave national politics and culture aside. Obviously we have some forces that do not want that movement, however.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5695 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:37 pm to
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It isn't the total solution, but we need to start prosecuting the people who ignore or fail to act on the signs these little psychopaths display.


Yep. Someone knew this kid was a ticking bomb and either ignored it, or threw their hands up.
Even if it’s your own flesh and blood you gotta get them help or lock their arse up until they are better
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15672 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:37 pm to
School shootings prior to 2000Not near as many as we have now. Just perusing wiki for school shootings since the 50’s. Most incidents only had one casualty.


This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 4:39 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:37 pm to
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So for almost 30 years? That’s considered “new” to you?

You're right, 25 years is a "lot" out of like 240 years this country has existed.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
9041 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:38 pm to
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In a society that rightfully protects freedom and due process, trying to help mentally unstable people on a voluntary basis is going to likely have limited effect. The standard for denying someone with mental health issues their freedom is also a difficult line to draw or timely enforce. I don’t think the answers are as easy as some pretend.


We (society) did it for thousands of years leading up to the 1950's. And you are correct. It is an extremely difficult and really harsh stance to take, but probably the only step that would have an immediate affect on the lone insane gunman killings.

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
126376 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:38 pm to
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No, but it's a start and every law abiding citizen gets to keep their stupid fricking guns.



That is until the party in power decides that not voting the right way constitutes a mental illness and then their little jackboot thugs break down your door at night and murder you and your family for “resisting” when they come to take your guns now that they’ve made them “illegal” with the stroke of a pen.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
170250 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:38 pm to
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this wasn't a problem until the latter half of the 90s.




Do you really believe that or are you just obtuse?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States


Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
31542 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:39 pm to
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Because there are millions of guns available. It should be a lot tougher to own a gun.


Fentanyl is pretty tough to procure and it somehow killed over 100,000. We do a bang up job on prohibition obviously.


Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11677 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 4:39 pm to
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frick you gun loving morons to fricking hell.


Bless your heart.

This was a bunch of kids, he could have killed just as many with pointy sticks.

Its not a gun problem, its a government/society problem.

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