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re: Houston has destroyed New Orleans Port traffic

Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:48 am to
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2634 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:48 am to
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It seems like people on this board want New Orleans to fail.
I don't believe that.nola's wounds are self-inflicted,the results of years being run by crooked democrats that don't give 2 fricks about the people.
Posted by pmacneworleans
Member since Dec 2013
2009 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:51 am to
The Port is a completely separate political entity from the city. It is a creature of the state. You guys incessantly bashing on the city of N.O. need to go find another straw man on this one.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9679 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:53 am to
There are a lot of people from Louisiana in Houston.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5323 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 6:55 am to
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You think the owner of that ship and the company that owns the product bark at the cost of the local pilot? Which is less than 1% of the cost to get the ship there btw.


You can try to minimize it all you want, but they get paid half a million dollars a year and are legally allowed to pass on their jobs directly to family members. Those ridiculous figures are financed by everyone who does business in the state by paying increased prices for the goods that are served by the shipping industry.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:14 am to
quote:

It seems like people on this board want New Orleans to fail. Y'all seem to celebrate anything bad that happens there. Well, having been born there and spent many years there, I've got news. Without New Orleans, Louisiana is basically Mississippi with better food


nobody wants NO to fail. We are just tired of seeing it continue to do so. For that matter, we're tired of seeing our entire state fail. Equally as frustrating is the defensive response by natives like you. Most of us were "born here" and "lived here for years". We've witnessed the non-ending cycle of failures.
This state and your city have all the blessings and resources necessary to do better, but too often we make excuses for why we aren't. Quit being defensive and faulting those of us who want change for the better.
We aren't celebrating the bad things, we are trying to point them out in the hope of changing them.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
37468 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:23 am to
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You can try to minimize it all you want, but they get paid half a million dollars a year and are legally allowed to


Bingo, it's not as if they accept only the best and brightest.

It maybe a tough job but the union controls who can and who can not be a river pilot.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
59292 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:30 am to
It's a modern day mafia.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17235 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:46 am to
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You can try to minimize it all you want, but they get paid half a million dollars a year and are legally allowed to pass on their jobs directly to family members. Those ridiculous figures are financed by everyone who does business in the state by paying increased prices for the goods that are served by the shipping industry.


How does that compare to other states? Harbor piloting is a racket in most of the states I have lived.

IMO cargo ships want two things. The ability to offload at a lightning pace, and the ability to gain additional loads for the transit to the next stop.

Houston is far superior in both regards.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3040 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:07 am to
Containerized cargo is very sensitive to economic conditions compared to oil, chemicals and grain. In 2008-09 the east and west coast ports were crying due to the recession and the river kept chugging along.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
37355 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:17 am to
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Containerized cargo is very sensitive to economic conditions compared to oil, chemicals and grain. I


I am sure Houston does very little chemical and oil
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:33 am to
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good job Mitch


that dude is literally Hitler and will ruin everything if given the chance
Posted by RichJ
The Land of the CoonAss
Member since Nov 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 11:53 am to
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Now that the statues are gone we will see business flooding back in.


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37846 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 12:39 pm to
NOLA has never been a container port. It has always been historically strong in bulk and break bulk cargo, and still is.

Houston has a distinct advantage in the Houston Ship Channel. You can pull in right off of Galveston Bay. Of course, NOLA tried to do something similar - the MRGO. We know how that worked out. The amount of time saved on the MRGO, compared to straight up the river, wasn't worth it considering needing to navigate the lock.
Posted by NOLAManBlog
The Big Nasty
Member since Dec 2012
1177 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:07 pm to
Chiquita went back to Gulfport last year. We did not lose that to Houston.

MT-GO has been closed for a while.

On the bright side, PortNO is gaining Cruise Lines and passengers
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2482 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 10:43 pm to
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Do you know what it actually takes to get a ship up and down the river?




I don't but I'll never get to find out either because my daddy, granddaddy, uncle, brother-in-law, etc weren't pilots.

I don't doubt that it takes a lot of practice and skill, I just object to their nepotistic selection methods. Make it hard to enter the field with plenty of schooling, certifications, etc sure but bloodlines shouldn't be a part of the equation.
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