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re: Houston has destroyed New Orleans Port traffic
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:58 pm to Deactived
Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:58 pm to Deactived
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What NOLA should have done was when they redid the Huey P, make it higher and make Avondale Shipyard a container terminal. That would have been very smart investing for the future.
Only problem is they would have had to shut down the railroad down for a long time to do that. Thats the only rail line across the river till Vicsburg I believe.
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 8:59 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Given that containerized cargo is a fairly infant industry, no port was really bread and butter for it. The amount of foresight and investment some ports had in the evolution of shipping allowed them to be better positioned as the shipping industry transitioned.
New Orleans, per usual for a Louisiana city, did nothing to invest and prepare for the transition, hence why they have fallen drastically.
Bingo. And it takes broad investment in both rail and road networks as well as the port itself.
Louisiana just doesn't invest in itself. The road and rail network in the region isn't going to get better by neglecting it.
Houston (and to a lesser extent, Mobile) made a conscious decision to persue that market. Long Beach is also doing the same in the west coast.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:00 pm to FredsGotSlacks
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Houston has destroyed New Orleans Port traffic by FredsGotSlacks
If you fly into Houston over the gulf you'll see 30-40 boats stacked up outside of Galveston waiting to go in at all times.
If you track the ships up and down the river and at its mouth,you may see just as many ships. They are more spread out.
Container ships will prefer population hubs as the greater population will demand the imports in the containers. If a importer can sell a large percentage of its good right off the boat, it makes more money due to reduced land shipping costs.
It is economics or some vast Mitch conspiracy. You all give that Dick head too much credit to screw up NOLA shipping.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:01 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Wasnt the price of a new bridge and rail going to be around the same as just redoing the old bridge?
When I meant higher, I meant a whole new bridge. My apologies
When I meant higher, I meant a whole new bridge. My apologies
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:01 pm to FredsGotSlacks
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lf you'll see 30-40 boats stacked up outside of Galveston waiting to go in at all times.
Those aren't all container ships.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:06 pm to ihometiger
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Houston has destroyed New Orleans Port traffic
False. Louisiana's terrible state government has destroyed New Orleans Port traffic.
Btw, the port of South Louisiana is still the busiest port in the US I believe.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:07 pm to ihometiger
right up the arse
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:09 pm to ihometiger
Surprising
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:09 pm to Deactived
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The numbers from them have always been counted separately, correct?
Usually Port of South Louisiana refers to the 60 mile stretch between the two cities.
Lately I have been reading a lot of reports that conflate the three ports. Combined, they have impressive stats that politicians and local economists like to pimp.
When they talk containers, it's primarily Port of New Orleans. Baton Rouge and SoLa are major bulk players.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:10 pm to ihometiger
When the 36-A coalition is established, it's the last nail.....
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:12 pm to CharlesLSU
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When the 36-A coalition is established, it's the last nail.....
RIP Mississippi River
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:14 pm to CharlesLSU
There is (or was) a plan out there to create a massive container port at the mouth of the river. I don't think they were able to get much in the way of private funding.
Maybe someone that posts here is more familiar with that. Pretty sure it died on the vine.
Maybe someone that posts here is more familiar with that. Pretty sure it died on the vine.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:18 pm to member12
Houston straight kicks arse. New Orleans pales in comparison.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:22 pm to makinskrilla
NOLA is to ports as List Eater is to the DAT
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:22 pm to OWLFAN86
Lmao
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:23 pm to Deactived
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Nola has the hardest route in the country and make a little above average for ship pilots in the country. They earn their money.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:23 pm to makinskrilla
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Houston straight kicks arse. New Orleans pales in comparison.
New Orleans > Houston in crime.
2017 Murder Capital of the World.
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:25 pm to ihometiger
Infrastructure is a big reason that EXXON passed on LA and went to TX. The tax credits were a bigger part but it for sure played a part
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:26 pm to ihometiger
None of the big corporations wanna deal with the trash in New Orleans and our crooked politicians, all the chemicals will move there too one day.
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