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re: Hospitals tell doctors they’ll be fired if they speak about lack of gear
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:54 pm to lsunurse
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:54 pm to lsunurse
Definitely not the way it is here unfortunately.
This thought occurred to me as well last week. I have no idea how effected it is on viruses though.
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We are looking at UVing in between uses if that changes.
This thought occurred to me as well last week. I have no idea how effected it is on viruses though.
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:22 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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I have no idea how effected it is on viruses though.
High power UV-C would work but the one concern I would have is on masks is some virus could (would) be on the back of filter fibers and possibly shaded (shielded) from the UV light.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:24 pm to EarlyCuyler3
A Nebraska hospital developed a specific protocol for using UV lamps to disinfect N95s. Look for it online.
We already use UV lamps in our hospital for OR cleanings and for patients that had extreme drug resistant organisms after they are discharged or moved to another room. Again....we are just devising a plan in place in case we get to where we have to reuse N95s for COViD patients. Hopefully we don’t get to that point.
We already use UV lamps in our hospital for OR cleanings and for patients that had extreme drug resistant organisms after they are discharged or moved to another room. Again....we are just devising a plan in place in case we get to where we have to reuse N95s for COViD patients. Hopefully we don’t get to that point.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:55 pm to John88
Yeah that’s how most employers draw up your code of conduct etc that you sign. Can’t bad mouth the company publicly or negatively represents the company. Life is tough get a helmet. Work at some super PC liberal shite show if you want to shite on your employer without consequence. You can always pack up and roll out. If you are unhappy they probably won’t miss you.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 7:40 pm to John88
Or it could that the hospital has a spokesperson and they are the ones that speak to the media. I’m guessing
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:00 pm to John88
Hospital I work at has been disgraceful here too.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:05 pm to icegator337
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I'm not sure people will be lining up to work in an overcrowded hospital filled with an infectious disease when the hospital has proven they won't provide you with the protective equipment you need. And then if you complain they'll terminate you.
The only people signing up for that are unqualified or stupid.
Some of the nurses I know have been offered 10k a week to work in NOLA or NYC. That’s how bad the demand is. And people still turn it down because of the conditions.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:14 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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You can't put those nurses in critical care areas.
Actual you can. My ex was an ICU nurse for several years bofore going to pre op.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:15 pm to theOG
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He was fired because he was not authorized to speak on behalf of the hospital. The guy might have no idea what he was talking about.
The doctor who has to work with the nonexistent PPE doesn’t know what he’s talking about? Uh... ok.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:19 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Also, most jobs have written in contracts that you cannot give interviews about company business unless authorized.
There are a lot of physician employers who also have social media use clauses in their contracts which limits what employees can and can’t publish/say on social media
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:20 pm to John88
I see why they're doing this because they should be telling the hospital not the press or social media. When they tell social media and the press it just stirs shite up instead of going to the people who can actually solve the problem.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:22 pm to cwil177
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The doctor who has to work with the nonexistent PPE doesn’t know what he’s talking about? Uh... ok.
No. It's not his job to supply the hospital with PPE, nor does he know where the supplies comes from. The hospitals are probably trying and for the workers to run out and whine about it to the cameras helps no one. Everyone is trying, stop dragging in drama for the cameras.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:43 pm to dgnx6
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Actual you can. My ex was an ICU nurse for several years bofore going to pre op.
Each person is a special case? Rust is real depending on how long your wife did pre-op. Charting and the minutia of the job may be completely different. Can your ex still tell the difference between "sick or no fricking sick" probably so. I am an ER nurse. Drop me in an OR? I am all thumbs.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:09 pm to tiggerthetooth
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No. It's not his job to supply the hospital with PPE, nor does he know where the supplies comes from. The hospitals are probably trying and for the workers to run out and whine about it to the cameras helps no one. Everyone is trying, stop dragging in drama for the cameras.
Just go to work with inferior safety equipment and shut up? frick that.
Squeaky wheel gets the grease. People and companies are donating PPE based on doctors and nurses going public. They need PPE. If they have to beg for it, so be it.
My cousin is an ER doc here in NOLA and is now out of commission with Covid. My brother is at Sloan Kettering and has been freaking out about the lack of PPE for weeks. It sucks.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:11 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I see why they're doing this because they should be telling the hospital not the press or social media. When they tell social media and the press it just stirs shite up instead of going to the people who can actually solve the problem.
The issue is hospitals aren't solving the problem and are encouraging unsafe practices to make up for the shortcomings.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:15 pm to John88
Many doctors work at my facility; very few work for it. Let the former speak for the latter.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:18 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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The issue is hospitals aren't solving the problem and are encouraging unsafe practices to make up for the shortcomings.
Well I guess people will die then.
Do you think anyone is deliberately sabotaging the system? People blaming someone else doesnt make the system go faster.
If anyone should blame someone it should be the people that sent manufacturing for medical supplies overseas. That's the number one reason for the shortage.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:19 pm to LSU alum wannabe
And not all OR/pre op nurses have ICU experience.
Obviously there will be staff in other areas that have ICU experience that can be floated there.
I'm reading about some of my former coworkers that work peds in other hospitals in other states. They are upset because they are being told they have a choice of working adult floors or no paycheck at all(i guess low census on the peds floors?). None of them have any experience working with adults. Pediatrics and adult nursing are two totally different worlds. Most peds nurses want nothing to do with adult areas and most adult nurses want nothing to do with peds areas.
Obviously there will be staff in other areas that have ICU experience that can be floated there.
I'm reading about some of my former coworkers that work peds in other hospitals in other states. They are upset because they are being told they have a choice of working adult floors or no paycheck at all(i guess low census on the peds floors?). None of them have any experience working with adults. Pediatrics and adult nursing are two totally different worlds. Most peds nurses want nothing to do with adult areas and most adult nurses want nothing to do with peds areas.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:20 pm to John88
You mean "speak out" as in going on social media to tell everyone how brave they are. I wish hospitals would say,look we don't have enough PPE gear. If you want to work, then work. If you don't want to work, then fine. We'll either turn patients away or find someone willing to sacrifice until we can acquire more gear.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:21 pm to NOFOX
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Just go to work with inferior safety equipment and shut up? frick that.
No one is saying that. If they have a problem they should go to the hospital administrators not instagram or the Washington post.
It makes zero sense to go to the media. The media isnt involved in the supply chain for PPE.
Weve been fricked by manufacturing our supplies outside of the country and we're getting caught with our pants down. Nothing anyone can do but make sure with what we have.
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People and companies are donating PPE based on doctors and nurses going public. They need PPE. If they have to beg for it, so be it.
Everyone already knows. The hospital administrators can do that. They dont need crying nurses posting to Facebook in the middle of their shifts.
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