re: Hopefully EV owners in Florida are filling up cans with electricity for the coming days

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The irony in your beloved EV depending on an gasoline or diesel ICE to be usable is delectable

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there is a source of gasoline there is a source of electricity. What is so difficult about this?

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The ‘source’ of gasoline in a massive electric system outage is the gasoline stored in containers by people who prepared ahead of time.

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First, people who drive gas cars are obviously smart enough to fill up ahead of a storm, but EV owners are too dumb to fully charge the day/night before.

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Without even trying I have enough gas cans on hand to provide a second full tank of fuel for my glorious V8 powered truck. Assuming I filled the first tank in the truck I would have almost 900 miles of ‘range’ sitting around ready to be used at a moments notice. Are you getting 900 miles of range on your charge the night before?

No, you aren’t. But you can turn on your ICE generator to bail out your dead batteries, which sorta turns your EV into an ICE vehicle. Or, you can ask your neighbor to tow your EV with his ICE vehicle for regenerative braking I guess.

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look how far you're stretching to contrive a bad scenario to rely on an EV

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And you continually contrive overly positive scenarios, or gloss over the complexities of the solutions you propose.

But, if the differences are as minimal as you are implying, why aren’t storm first responder vehicles being powered by electricity? Line Trucks, pickups, ambulances, etc.

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Gas cans exist. 3 days ago when it was possible to fill those cans and store them for use after the storm also existed.

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You’re out here taking victory laps on EV ownersnwhen they’re in the same
Boat as everyone who didn’t get multiple cans of gas 3 days ago.

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If you're going to wait in line for an hour, would you rather fill your vehicle, or fill your vehicle plus 50 additional gallons worth of cans...

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Your local gas stations don't ration fuel when there's a run on the pumps before a storm?

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And IF you decide to fill your vehicle with electricity from a generator, how long are you willing to wait?

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This is worst-case scenario with zero planning. I'm just saying it's possible.

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Hint: I call fill my car in 5 minutes and leave the state if I needed to... you cannot... it's not an infrastructure problem, it's a suboptimal vehicle problem...

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I assure you that any EV driver in Florida that wants to leave the state (or just the impact area) will be able to.

I know it's some folks' wet dream to see a bunch of EVs littering the highway after a storm (while ignoring the gas vehicles littering the highway), but EVs are not as "suboptimal" as you want them to be.

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and we KNOW you arent feeding that energy back into your house because that would be an absolutely STUPID waste of resources (time and energy usage)

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Why? A fully charged EV with a proper setup could easily run an AC unit a couple hours a day to take the edge off and keep it livable for a week or more. Or it can run a window unit 6 or 8 hours a day for a week. And if paired with a natgas generator, or solar w/ or w/o home storage, then your power and transportation needs are handled indefinitely, regardless of whether the gas stations near you have power or fuel.

FTR I am not opposed to people owning EV’s, and think it is a neat concept in certain situations. I actually looked into buying a Rivian truck recently but was put off by the waitlist.

What I am opposed to is the BS idea that EV’s are somehow good for the environment, and the almost religious belief by some that they should replace ICE vehicles across the board. Especially using government mandates or incentives.

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Without even trying I have enough gas cans on hand to provide a second full tank of fuel for my glorious V8 powered truck. Assuming I filled the first tank in the truck I would have almost 900 miles of ‘range’ sitting around ready to be used at a moments notice. Are you getting 900 miles of range on your charge the night before?

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If you need to drive 900 miles then it sounds like you are the one who is bad at planning.

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And you continually contrive overly positive scenarios

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I am laying out the obvious solutions to your stupid contrived scenarios.

There are zero scenarios where an EV owner will be unable to charge anywhere in the state of Florida. None.

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But, if the differences are as minimal as you are implying, why aren’t storm first responder vehicles being powered by electricity? Line Trucks, pickups, ambulances, etc.

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Because it's not the right tool for the job. Is your capacity to reason seriously this limited?

Too poor to afford a tesla huh

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There are zero scenarios where an EV owner will be unable to charge anywhere in the state of Florida. None.

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Ummmmm, 2/3 of the state has a fricking Cat 4 barreling straight up the entire western coastline. It’ll still be a Cat 1 24 hours after landfall. The hurricane will cover the entire lower part of the state below the panhandle. There will be places without power for weeks.

EV owners are about to rely on gas a helluva lot more than you realize.

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Using that logic, why is owning an EV so important then? You are not changing the dynamic whatsoever.

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For me, I like the car. It’s a technologically advanced luxury vehicle that goes fast as hell. As an added bonus, I don’t have to spend time at gas stations with unwashed masses, and every morning I wake up with a “full tank”.

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I don’t have to spend time at gas stations with unwashed masses

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I’ve never understood the big deal here. Most people fill up every other week or once a week if they drive a lot.

It’s not a significant amount of time.