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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:11 am to Wolfhound45
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Not the same as "environmental" virtue signaling.
It is wearing/owning something to show off some perceived superiority. Just triggers some politically.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:13 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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So does the sun.
Everyone knows that solar panels are hurricane proof.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:14 am to fightin tigers
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. Rolex, Ford Platinums, Ray Bans, JennAir appliances, ProV1 golf balls.
All are FAF and when you look back will have always been totally clutch.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:14 am to weagle99
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Everyone knows that solar panels are hurricane proof.
Someone doesn't have solar panels that have gone through multiple hurricanes and tropical storms...
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:15 am to Korkstand
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If not then gas vehicles are SOL
Unless people prepared by storing gas ahead of time, which is the entire premise of this thread
Do you talk in circles this much in real life?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:16 am to weagle99
quote:So you purposely seek out this "propaganda" that you claim to be inundated with. Man you're even dumber than I thought.
Read automotive websites on a daily basis and get back to us
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:16 am to weagle99
Poor bastards leaving central Florida in an EV can’t make it out of the state on a single charge. Gonna be a cluster frick at any available charging stations
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Someone doesn't have solar panels that have gone through multiple hurricanes and tropical storms...
I admit that I don’t.
But to recap: In order to have an EV that is a useful as an ICE vehicle with a few extra cheap cans of gas I need to also buy an ICE generator or install solar panels on my property. Or I guess windmills?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:19 am to Korkstand
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So you purposely seek out this "propaganda" that you claim to be inundated with.
I’m interested in autos so it would make sense that I would see out auto related websites.
They are all in lockstep. It is disappointing.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:20 am to weagle99
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I need to also buy an ICE generator or install solar panels on my property.
If you live in hurricane country and don't already have these, you have bigger problems than gas cans and batteries.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:23 am to weagle99
quote:Yes I get the premise, which is that gasoline shortages are common before/during/after storms.
Unless people prepared by storing gas ahead of time, which is the entire premise of this thread
The thing you still fail to grasp, though, is that once your stocks run out, if gas is not available then a gas vehicle can't fuel up.
But an EV can charge up using gas if you have to. Or diesel, or natgas, or solar, or the grid, or whatever. By running directly from a more basic and fundamental "fuel" (electricity), you diversify your options.
Do you need the advantages of diversification explained to you further or more simply?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:23 am to Korkstand
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Yes I know. I also know that supplies of gasoline will be slowed/interrupted, but that natgas generators will be humming and off-grid-capable solar panels will be putting out.
How much experience do you have with hurricanes? Honest question. When you have this kind of catastrophic potential it will all be shutdown for a while. Gas lines get cut off to avoid blowing up neighborhoods.
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So? My entire argument is that they can if they have to, but that they can also "fuel up" using whatever else is available.
This ain't hard, folks.
You have no clue. We don't have a big enough EV infrastructure to be tested or to use as a litmus. But, if EV's dominated the market and you get a situation where all electricity and natgas is not working for weeks, EV's are fricked. Gas stations run on backup generators all the time. After Katrina some stations were hooking up small generators to the pumps only and taking cash but you could still get gas. You can ship in gas from surrounding areas to fill up gas stations.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:24 am to weagle99
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I’m interested in autos so it would make sense that I would see out auto related websites.
They are all in lockstep. It is disappointing.
You're surprised that people talk about new types of vehicles on auto websites?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:25 am to weagle99
I see the daily anti-EV circle jerk is going about as usual.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:25 am to MightyYat
After decades of no issues for Tampa EV owners the chickens are finally coming home to roost.
They will rue the day.
They will rue the day.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:27 am to GurleyGirl
I let my gear head neighbor borrow one of my Teslas to drive to and from work. This is a guy that can rebuild just about anything gas wise and has been around cars his whole life (family owned a repair shop). He said the Tesla is by far his favorite car to drive. I did not expect him to say that
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:27 am to weagle99
quote:There are plenty of non-EV auto sites. It does not surprise me that you have trouble finding them, though, given your complete lack of anything resembling intelligence as you display on this site daily.
I’m interested in autos so it would make sense that I would see out auto related websites.
They are all in lockstep. It is disappointing.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:28 am to TheOcean
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I let my gear head neighbor borrow one of my Teslas to drive to and from work. This is a guy that can rebuild just about anything gas wise and has been around cars his whole life (family owned a repair shop). He said the Tesla is by far his favorite car to drive
They're fun to drive. My wife's Model 3 is parked next to my 1000whp GTR. Different cars but each fun in their own way.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:40 am to MightyYat
quote:A good bit.
How much experience do you have with hurricanes?
quote:Granted I am a bit inland (BR area), but I can't recall a single time the gas has been shut off. Maybe I'm forgetting something but as far as I can remember going back to the 80s we've always been able to light the stove.
When you have this kind of catastrophic potential it will all be shutdown for a while. Gas lines get cut off to avoid blowing up neighborhoods.
I've been to areas where houses were completely wiped from their foundations, and I'm sure their gas was cut off. I'm also sure those folks evacuated and that an EV would take them to a place where that won't happen.
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You have no clue.
quote:Do you still not see the error in your logic?
But, if EV's dominated the market and you get a situation where all electricity and natgas is not working for weeks, EV's are fricked. Gas stations run on backup generators all the time.
We are nowhere close to EVs "dominating the market", and it will take decades to get there. But check it out... it would be more efficient to charge EVs from those large generators that power gas stations than it would to put the generator's fuel directly into vehicles. It has been put to the test, and the results align with what the math says: a gallon of diesel burned in a large-ish generator will charge an EV for more range than the same gallon would drive a diesel-engined car.
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