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re: Home Buying Negotiations between Buyer/Seller
Posted on 3/20/21 at 6:02 am to Clark W Griswold
Posted on 3/20/21 at 6:02 am to Clark W Griswold
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This post was edited on 3/20/21 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:08 am to SM6
So much bad advice in this thread and not much really reflecting the Louisiana market. The inventory is really low right now, but the market isn’t hot enough to sell a 400k house with a damaged roof to the majority of buyers.
Our house is near $400,000 but required $2,000 worth of repairs to the roof I negotiated that the seller be responsible for. There was a leak and clear deficiencies in how the flashing was laid against the brick. I paid all closing cost. They fixed the roof. This is after I negotiated a 4% reduction from the listing price.
I brought out an inspector and roofer. That both agreed on the necessary repairs.
In DC or other metro areas the market is totally different. Sellers can bang their gavel and claim the next buyer. You’re not even getting that kind of overlook at that price level in hurricane recovery alley Louisiana.
However the roof damage is assessed, if it’s damaged it has to be fixed prior to close if it’s secured with a mortgage and requires insurance. Your policy won’t be binded until a visit is made by the insurance company to assess its condition. The roof will cause it to fail.
Unless you’re a contractor or own a roofing company, I’d never close on a house (if I had cash) without ensuring the roof is structurally sound and repaired to spec. Sellers don’t like it, move on. Total roof replacement is a bit much unless it’s necessary and you’re ok with relisting.
Our house is near $400,000 but required $2,000 worth of repairs to the roof I negotiated that the seller be responsible for. There was a leak and clear deficiencies in how the flashing was laid against the brick. I paid all closing cost. They fixed the roof. This is after I negotiated a 4% reduction from the listing price.
I brought out an inspector and roofer. That both agreed on the necessary repairs.
In DC or other metro areas the market is totally different. Sellers can bang their gavel and claim the next buyer. You’re not even getting that kind of overlook at that price level in hurricane recovery alley Louisiana.
However the roof damage is assessed, if it’s damaged it has to be fixed prior to close if it’s secured with a mortgage and requires insurance. Your policy won’t be binded until a visit is made by the insurance company to assess its condition. The roof will cause it to fail.
Unless you’re a contractor or own a roofing company, I’d never close on a house (if I had cash) without ensuring the roof is structurally sound and repaired to spec. Sellers don’t like it, move on. Total roof replacement is a bit much unless it’s necessary and you’re ok with relisting.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:16 am to DiamondDog
In our case we have clear water intrusion from the roof. Really wasn’t debatable.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:16 am to DiamondDog
With how low the inventory is right now, I wouldn’t do anything as far as the inspection items go. They are going to ask for all those things bc the worst you can say is no. Most buyers are not currently walking away right now.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:19 am to DiamondDog
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Unless you’re a contractor or own a roofing company, I’d never close on a house (if I had cash) without ensuring the roof is structurally sound and repaired to spec. Sellers don’t like it, move on. Total roof replacement is a bit much unless it’s necessary and you’re ok with relisting.
To be fair, and I may have missed it, but I don’t think we know how bad the roof is. It’s the wild card item on the list for sure and none of us have great info to speculate what needs to be done, yet alone the OPs actual market conditions layered on top of that.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:21 am to DiamondDog
I can echo what diamond dog said. Bought and sold a number of houses over the years in different markets as my business moved me around the country. "you need to know when to hold them and when to fold them KR"
2-5 k in price for repair adjustment is a good window. Get your roofer to estimate repairs. Make sure you tell him you are selling and only want repairs.
Once the inspection is done it now is provided to every buyer so you are not going to cover this up.
A qualified buyer is highly valuable. Of The two bidders make sure your agent knows if they are solid or if there may be a question on them qualifying.
You get greedy and you may lose the battle.
2-5 k in price for repair adjustment is a good window. Get your roofer to estimate repairs. Make sure you tell him you are selling and only want repairs.
Once the inspection is done it now is provided to every buyer so you are not going to cover this up.
A qualified buyer is highly valuable. Of The two bidders make sure your agent knows if they are solid or if there may be a question on them qualifying.
You get greedy and you may lose the battle.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:30 am to 756
Agreed. I tried to take a practical approach to ours because I understand nobody wants to come out more money on an already reduced home.
We asked for the roof repaired ($2,000), A/C maintenance (already had it inspected myself with A/C shop), and Sewer inspection/pump. My realtor insisted on some home warranty which is probably some kickback scheme. It’ll likely pay nothing for anything.
I felt those three items were the main issues with the house. If I had to guess, they probably had $2,500 out of pocket expenses in concessions.
I felt these were things any buyer would want to know and ensured in a standard market. They agree to them all swiftly.
We asked for the roof repaired ($2,000), A/C maintenance (already had it inspected myself with A/C shop), and Sewer inspection/pump. My realtor insisted on some home warranty which is probably some kickback scheme. It’ll likely pay nothing for anything.
I felt those three items were the main issues with the house. If I had to guess, they probably had $2,500 out of pocket expenses in concessions.
I felt these were things any buyer would want to know and ensured in a standard market. They agree to them all swiftly.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:47 am to Schmelly
Ok. I would maybe fix the window. They can pass on the sale. They didn't wait long for this one. Or they can take a few $$$ off the price.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:55 am to Schmelly
House for sale like it is. Take it or leave it. No changes. 2 days to decide. You know about all defects and had an inspection. Next buyer please.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 7:57 am to zippyputt
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House for sale like it is. Take it or leave it. No changes. 2 days to decide. You know about all defects and had an inspection. Next buyer please.
These are the for sale by owner types who see their house on the market for 265 days. When we were looking and saw FSBO, we just moved on.
Those people are always a pain in the arse to deal with.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 8:01 am to DiamondDog
Not in a sellers market. They had their own inspection already. Buyers were told about ALL issues with house. In this case they are already offering OVER list. Someone else will buy it and quickly.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 8:28 am to DiamondDog
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So much bad advice in this thread and not much really reflecting the Louisiana market. The inventory is really low right now, but the market isn’t hot enough to sell a 400k house with a damaged roof to the majority of buyers.
No kidding. People are absolutely walking away from homes due to inspection issues. This is not debatable. In addition, appraisers aren't quite on board with this "hot" market, in the BR area anyway. "Receiving two offers" does not equal receiving offers from buyers who are qualified, able to make repairs on a home, and willing/able to pay the difference between the appraisal and the negotiated contract price, if needed.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 8:43 am to Schmelly
Unless it’s safety or code related those buyers can frick right off. They will find another buyer and that realtor just wants a check.
If they do go back on the market sell it with the caveat that absolutely no repairs outside of code/safety will be considered.
I did this for the last house we sold, fixed a window and installed a carbon monoxide detector.
If they do go back on the market sell it with the caveat that absolutely no repairs outside of code/safety will be considered.
I did this for the last house we sold, fixed a window and installed a carbon monoxide detector.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 9:48 am to DiamondDog
If a roof is leaking any reasonable person will fix it for the buyer. If an inspector who couldn’t cut it as a contractor tries to tell you it needs replaced when it’s just a small repair that’s actually needed then you have a problem.
Realtors are middlemen. They don’t really serve a purpose unless you have no idea what you’re doing. If you’re selling, the title company does all the work. If you’re buying, there are tons of websites to help you find a house. The realtor is free to a buyer so go for it but in a heated market no seller with a good house should ever consider wasting 3% for nothing.
Realtors are middlemen. They don’t really serve a purpose unless you have no idea what you’re doing. If you’re selling, the title company does all the work. If you’re buying, there are tons of websites to help you find a house. The realtor is free to a buyer so go for it but in a heated market no seller with a good house should ever consider wasting 3% for nothing.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 10:01 am to Schmelly
In some locations these days, it is a seller's market with buyers begging and competing against each other to have the seller honor them and allow them to buy the house.
I don't know how the market is in Louisiana though, but I suspect it depends on the location.....
I don't know how the market is in Louisiana though, but I suspect it depends on the location.....
Posted on 3/20/21 at 10:06 am to Schmelly
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First day on the market, BIL/SIL get 2 full price offers for their home. A price that was already ~$15k over what they originally set out to ask
I’d yell at my realtor for setting asking price too low. All these realtors brag about ‘sold in 4 hours’ when all that means to me is they didn’t get what the house is truly worth.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 10:15 am to Clark W Griswold
Please tell me what the title company does and why they are driving the transaction?
Posted on 3/20/21 at 11:07 am to geaux88
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I don't know how the market is in Louisiana though, but I suspect it depends on the location.....
There are locations in Lafayette, Baton Rouge, and especially New Orleans where a $300K house with bad roof and other issues will sell in a day, and be bulldozed for the lot.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 11:23 am to EA6B
But in this case the house would be selling in a day because the buyer wants the lot. It could literally be missing its roof. This has been happening long before the current market and it's very area specific.
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