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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17134 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:33 pm to
Spann is a really good guy. And doesn’t hype stuff up to get clicks. His tornado coverage is second to none. And he knows every small town and country road in Alabama. He will be like “the tornado is going to cross about 1 mile north of big Billy’s bbq in Birdville. Birdville had a really bad hail storm on October 16th 1974”

Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
8054 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:54 pm to
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We’re in the cone!


Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
93623 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:01 pm to
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This is totally false Multiple models had Francine exactly right over a week out and they decently accurate on the upper air pattern 5-7days out


lol…some of y’all are so dense.

It has nothing to do with days out, knucklehead, it’s that it hasn’t really developed into anything yet to give them any data points.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30513 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:05 pm to
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lol…some of y’all are so dense.

It has nothing to do with days out, knucklehead, it’s that it hasn’t really developed into anything yet to give them any data points.


It really is hilarious that people don't understand this
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17703 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:08 pm to
Fr though, anyone else tired of this shite and just want to move from the coast?

Not sure where I’d go, because eac part of the U.S. has its weather.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40219 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:14 pm to
This is from my nephew who works for FOX Weather in NYC.

As of 9 p.m. this evening. His analysis. It may be helpful, or it may not. You decide.

quote:

Once again, not much has changed in the overall outlook for the Gulf tropics threat. The National Hurricane Center has increased the odds of development from 60% to 70% and is now explicitly forecasting the formation of a tropical depression in the next few days. It’s important to note that a tropical disturbance has yet to actually form in the Caribbean.

We still do not know exactly where the area of low pressure will begin to organize. Will it develop farther over the Caribbean, close to the Yucatán coast, or will it wait until it is in the Gulf of Mexico? Each of these scenarios is significant. The formation of the low is critical, but we must also consider what is happening over the continental U.S. The steering currents appear extremely complex, and I won’t delve into them right now.

There are many facets to the setup of this tropical system, and it will take another 2-3 days to work out the details. It truly won’t be until the low forms that we can start making more informed assumptions.
One important point to emphasize is the potential for this upcoming system to be quite large—large enough to cause significant coastal impacts, regardless of its strength. I've attached images from three of our major global forecast models.

Rather than focusing on where the storm might make landfall, let’s look at the areas where the reds indicate tropical storm-force sustained winds according to the models. There could be a substantial fetch of winds pushing into the coast for hundreds of miles, potentially extending far inland. Therefore, even if the system only becomes a tropical storm, it can still have major impacts along its path.

The models pictured below include the ECMWF (commonly known as the EURO), GEM (the Canadian model), and GFS (the American model). Once again, don’t focus on the specific positions of the storm, as they differ among the models. Instead, pay attention to the structure and the extensive reach of the tropical storm-force winds.







This post was edited on 9/21/24 at 9:17 pm
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14254 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:17 pm to
Plaquemines Parish has seemed to be the bullseye from the jump

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42279 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:18 pm to
Baton Rouge is kind of a sweet spot.

We avoid the EF4-5 tornados mostly… and we are far enough from the coast to fare well enough from a major hurricane.

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:22 pm to
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and we are far enough from the coast to fare well enough from a major hurricane.


All true, but Gustav wasn’t a walk in the park.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5533 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:26 pm to
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Baton Rouge is kind of a sweet spot.




I don't think those words have ever been arranged in that order on this board before. Might be the last time too.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30513 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:34 pm to
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Gustav wasn’t a walk in the park.


Neither was the most overlooked hurricane of all time - Rita
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6693 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

quote:
Baton Rouge is kind of a sweet spot.



I don't think those words have ever been arranged in that order on this board before. Might be the last time too.


Exactly. My house was definitely not in anything that resembled a "sweet spot" during Gustav. That's a completely bullshite ,blanket statement.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
48888 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:42 pm to
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It may be helpful, or it may not. You decide.
very helpful thank you.
I’m out of town until a week from tomorrow. Looks like I’ll at least need to be paying attention
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6159 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:44 pm to
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Wrong! Francine didn't have NO in the cone 5 to 7 days out.


Model doesnt equal cone dumbass

The Euro AI had Francine making landfall in sela on consistent runs over a week out and the Icon 5 days out
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6159 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:47 pm to
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It has nothing to do with days out, knucklehead, it’s that it hasn’t really developed into anything yet to give them any data points.


So Francine was developed 7 days before it hit?
It wasn’t even a TD 4 days before it hit and was a lemon 8 days before
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42279 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:51 pm to
Latest GFS hates Tampa…lol

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/
This post was edited on 9/21/24 at 9:52 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102666 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 9:59 pm to
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Don’t doubt him, his catfish will predict this storm’s intensity and landfall with 99.999999% accuracy.


I already posted my catfish model on the first couple pages

It gets to major hurricane status then front weakens it to a Cat 1 and panhandle landfall
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
7968 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:01 pm to
Gustav sucked. No power for 13 days in BR.
Posted by RummelTiger
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Aug 2004
93623 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:03 pm to
Why do you keep bringing up Francine? This has nothing to do with that.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131549 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 10:04 pm to
Why do people keep bringing up Gustav?
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