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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:29 pm to
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Most models seem to be in agreement on landfall from Nola to Pensacola now. All are TS strength


lol...there's not enough data for the models to have any real idea of what the thing does. Many people have posted links to Mets saying it's way too soon to get any decent idea as to what this thing will do.

Would not put any stock in models as of now.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:32 pm to
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That's my wife's people!

I saw Bobby's post, and then I saw your post and thought you were referring to the gremlin.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
17043 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:34 pm to
Which Bob are we referring to here
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 4:41 pm to
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Which Bob are we referring to here

The OG Bob.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33490 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:02 pm to
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Which Bob are we referring to here


The OG Bob.
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TheBob

Metairie
Member since Jun 2005

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Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:18 pm to
18Z GFS is a Cat 3 into Apalachicola. Interesting to see this models slowly move east but vary in intensity.

Yes I know they don't mean much right now.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:22 pm to
It still swings east and west bc 12Z was near Florida Alabama border
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:50 pm to
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I hope no one is getting annoyed with me posting updates from a meteorologist in Birmingham. Spann gives very concise updates without a bunch of hyperbole.
This post was edited on 9/21/24 at 5:52 pm
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
7133 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 5:53 pm to
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lol...there's not enough data for the models to have any real idea of what the thing does. Many people have posted links to Mets saying it's way too soon to get any decent idea as to what this thing will do. Would not put any stock in models as of now.


Don’t doubt him, his catfish will predict this storm’s intensity and landfall with 99.999999% accuracy.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
5131 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:05 pm to
All Information is welcomed! I don’t wish this on anyone, but would rather not have to deal with another storm so soon.

No matter what state the weather news comes from regarding the gulf coast, it’s valuable information to keep us updated
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:13 pm to
Getting a little more consistency today/this evening. Euro has started to favor more of the Eastern envelop (WCAB) for development, coming more towards the GFS. That makes sense given where we've seen convection starting to get going over the past 24 hours. Euro does involve the Yucatan a bit more, dragging the system more NW over it, maybe hampering development a bit. There's also decent agreement between the GFS and Euro on timing of the trough, but still some differences on its progression.

It will be interesting to see what, if anything, develops on the western side of the gyre, as that could play a role in the ceiling of the Gulf storm.
This post was edited on 9/21/24 at 7:23 pm
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43295 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:40 pm to

Northwestern Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico:
A broad area of low pressure should form during the next few days
over the northwestern Caribbean Sea and the adjacent portions of
Central America. Thereafter, gradual development of this system is
expected, and a tropical depression is likely to form as the system
moves slowly northward across the northwestern Caribbean Sea and
Gulf of Mexico through the end of next week. Regardless of
development, this system is expected to produce heavy rains over
portions of Central America during the next several days.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...70 percent.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1941 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:06 pm to
We’re in the cone!
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33490 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:07 pm to
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8PM EDT Sep 21: We continue to monitor 3 areas for potential development across the Atlantic basin. A low pressure system is expected to form in the NW Caribbean Sea in a few days and it has a 70% chance of development while it moves generally northward across the Gulf of Mexico next week. Stay up to date with the latest as we move into next week at LINK
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The two other systems include a tropical wave in the eastern/central tropical Atlantic which has a 40 percent chance of development. The other area is located in the central subtropical Atlantic which has a 10 percent chance of development.
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Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:10 pm to
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lol...there's not enough data for the models to have any real idea of what the thing does


This is totally false
Multiple models had Francine exactly right over a week out and they decently accurate on the upper air pattern 5-7days out
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:23 pm to
The problem is there this isnt a wave. Big circulation gonna spin up smaller circulation and I dont have confidence on where it will be.

Upper levels can be right but fire the storm off 200 miles east of expectations and ...

Look, the modeling this afternoon has been favoring an eastern start to this. Once that is more concrete, we can use the models to have a good idea whats going to happen.

I do want to note, I expect this to take a while to tighten up. Could easily see this being a weaker broad system, but certainly not a guarantee
Posted by Anonymous95
Member since Sep 2014
2101 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:26 pm to
Red fetus shape doesn’t seem good.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12657 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 7:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/21/24 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Marta1907
Member since Nov 2005
336 posts
Posted on 9/21/24 at 8:19 pm to
Wrong! Francine didn't have NO in the cone 5 to 7 days out.
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