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re: Has anyone been on an Indian Reservation?

Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by JoePepitone
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:41 pm to
I was in Talequah, OK thinking I was going into the county courthouse in order to research land records. I had never been there before and everything seemed to fit - older, multi-story building on a large lot near the center of town. Headed up the sidewalk toward the entrance I passed a bronze sign that stated "You are now leaving the United States of America and entering the Sovereign Cherokee Nation". I had to stop and think about it for a minute because it was the first time I had ever encountered a situation where I was leaving American jurisdiction in the middle of our country.

I guess I should add that I was in the wrong place. The county courthouse there is located a few blocks away - not on sovereign Cherokee land.
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 4:56 pm
Posted by BobDobalina
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:42 pm to
No.. but that is a shite hole too.. STRDB
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:43 pm to
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Posted by Phil A Sheo
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:43 pm to
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Been in Cherokee, NC many times though.


Same here.. Went for first time when I was 20, was super excited that I could gamble early there
Posted by Alatgr
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:44 pm to
Stopped in one in South Dakota for gas. it was depressing as hell.
Posted by Wavefan
St. Tammany
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:50 pm to
It depends on a bunch of things. I do not know about N. Dakota but I know that in other places I have been where tourism is a way that the tribe makes money non-native-Americans are typically welcomed as long as they act respectful and obey the law. And it helps to buy something! Some reservations do not welcome outsiders, and some of these have been mentioned and I agree. Some that are bisected by highways use the "Woodworth' method of revenue generation so always obey the speed limit and traffic laws strictly.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:52 pm to
Do casinos count?


If so then yes
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 4:57 pm to
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Woodworth


F that place. Friends wanted to go through it because that was their last name. Got pulled over for doing the speed limit and they had us out our car and searching it for no reason at all. Screw that place.
We still got a ticket and there was like no way to fight it, had to pay the mayor. They have like 10 cops and 100 residents, makes no sense how it even exists.
Posted by Shexter
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Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:03 pm to
If you're ever in New Mexico, this is the best one to visit:

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San Ildefonso (sahn eel-deh-FOHN-soh)
Route 5 Box 315-A; Santa Fe, NM 87506
505-455-3549 (Visitor Center); 505-455-2273 (Governor); Fax: 505-455-7351

San Ildefonso has been located at its present site, 20 miles northwest of Santa Fe off NM 502, the road to Los Alamos, since the late 1500s. Beautifully situated on the eastern bank of the Rio Grande, San Ildefonso is very well known for its black-on-black pottery which commands the respect of fine art collectors worldwide. Some dances are open to the public throughout the year; of particular importance is the Buffalo-Deer Dance, which takes place on San Ildefonso's feast day. A museum displays local arts and crafts. The Visitors Center can provide additional information and direct people to craft shops in the pueblo. Fishing is available at the lake.

Hours: 8am-5pm daily (Visitor Center hours).
Admission: $3 carload.
Photo Fee: Photos are allowed, for a fee, in the village only. Certain areas of the pueblo are off limits.
Groups: Advance notice required.
For dance and other information please contact the Visitor Center prior to arrival.

Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:05 pm to
Been to one in Wisconsin. When I tell you it's depressing, I mean imagine the worst trailer park you've ever seen in your life and multiply that by a lot.
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:08 pm to

Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:10 pm to
Drove through a couple, and they were all pretty much the same level of poor. Didn't look like a lot of the run down trailers they were living in had sewer or power. Gas was more expensive, and they only let me get $75 at a time
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:11 pm to
Got two right down the road from me. The big players in town are the miccosukee indians. They have their name on every big arena. The seminoles aren't as baller but still do very well.

Reservations suck though.
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 5:12 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:22 pm to
I've been through quite a few over the years. Unless you're at a tribal owned casino or gas station, it is typically a pretty sorry state of affairs.

I think the absolute worst I saw was south of Glacier Nat'l Park in Montana. I believe it was a Blackfoot (Blackfeet?) reservation. It was about 8:00 a.m. and I saw 3 or 4 people who were just completely hammered and staggering along, and into, the highway. Trash everywhere, decrepit buildings, very depressing...

We stole the better part of an entire continent from them, once we got through trying to kill as many as we could. I know slavery and Jim Crow laws were bad, but the American Indians REALLY got fricked. Those poor bastards deserve all the tax benefits they've got.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23058 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

I think the absolute worst I saw was south of Glacier Nat'l Park in Montana. I believe it was a Blackfoot (Blackfeet?) reservation. It was about 8:00 a.m. and I saw 3 or 4 people who were just completely hammered and staggering along, and into, the highway. Trash everywhere, decrepit buildings, very depressing...


My younger sister, no pics, spent 2 months on a Blackfoot Reservation in that area the last couple of years for a mission thing. She was horrified about how horrible the conditions were and how few services they had for correctable diseases/issues. She's a speech pathology major and decided her calling in life is to be a speech pathologist on a reservation in that area.

Now she's in Montana for grad school and volunteers at one of the reservations as much as she can.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:30 pm to
by Hammertime
Drove through a couple, and they were all pretty much the same level of poor. Didn't look like a lot of the run down trailers they were living in had sewer or power. Gas was more expensive, and they only let me get $75 at a time
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Interesting...
There's an Indian reservation with a casino and truck stop gas station along I-10, west of L.A., on the way to Palm Springs. Aside from the obvious large volume of traffic in SoCal, this gas station is always packed. I don't think they have to pay federal tax on gas, so they get it cheaper. When I lived out there, gas was always a little, not a lot, but a little cheaper. Maybe a nickel a gallon, but consistently less expensive than any place else in the area.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:32 pm to
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It depends on a bunch of things. I do not know about N. Dakota but I know that in other places I have been where tourism is a way that the tribe makes money non-native-Americans are typically welcomed as long as they act respectful and obey the law.

This. The ones I have been to in WA and AZ relied on tourists or gambling so they at least pretend to like you. I saw a documentary on the ones in the Dakotas and I wouldn't frick around there.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:35 pm to
Good for her, and them. Like I said, I've been through quite a few, but that place was awful. (I want to say it was Hwy 2, but it's been about 12 years since I was there. It was a primarily north/south route through western MT, not too far from the ID border. I'll have to check a map...)
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31986 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:36 pm to
Been to many of them,try to treat people normally and you should be OK. That's always my policy and it works pretty well for me. I make sure that I talk to people openly,never start talking politics, but if they want to talk to me about it, I listen.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 9/18/15 at 5:43 pm to
Maybe they're still pissed about Wounded Knee and Leonard Peltier.

I spent a weekend visiting Olympic NP in WA. There was a trailhead parking lot on Indian land that had almost as much broken window glass as gravel. I took a look around and decided, frick this. I asked a NPS ranger about it later, and he said it was Native Americans targeting rental cars.
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