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Wavefan
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I have an old single side box call made by a fellow named Joyner from around Evergreen Alabama that I bought at a hardware store there probably over twenty years ago. Don’t know if he is still with us but it is a well built call made with cedar and it gives sweet yelps. I usually carry some pot calls too but this is the one that gets used the most. Maybe it is just a comfort thing but I have more confidence that I’m going to make a decent yelp or cluck with that call. I’m far from a pro on any call. That old Joyner box is reliable and hard to mess up if you just stick to basics and don’t try to call too much or do anything radical. What I have learned is they know where that sound is coming from and less is more to keep them looking for the hen. Also that whatever I do the toms in south Alabama are number one skittish and number two have plenty of real hens available so a mediocre hunter like me ought to consider it a success to get one interested and answering even if the safety is never slid to the red side.
Let’s hear some turkey tales
Posted by Wavefan on 3/30/26 at 7:50 pm
Alabama opener was last Wednesday. Hunted close to the camp because of obligations later in the morning. No gobbles. No turkeys seen or heard. Entertainment consisted of watching two coons then later a fox. Thursday I went to some land away from the camp and heard gobbles. Got a ridge away from the closest and settled in. Bird steady gobbled from 630 to 730 but didn’t seem to be getting closer or moving at all. I got up and creeped to the ridge to see if he was strutting or with hens and he was still in the tree. From the limb he saw me. Didn’t really spook just flew down slightly out of range and walked off tonking. Lesson learned. Turkey one me zero.
Friday I was close to that spot and heard nothing. About 830 I was fixing to leave and saw a hen walking up, clucking now and then. After she wandered off I waited until about nine and was getting ready to leave again when one gobbled pretty close down the hill. I yelped and he didn’t answer but I sat tight. After what seemed like thirty minutes but was probably fifteen I slowly reached down to pick up my box call and yelp again. You can guess what happened. Loud putt from my right and there he goes running off. Turkeys two me still zero. Another lesson I should have learned long ago.
Saturday was windy as all get out and I heard nothing and the only two I saw were running down the dirt road while driving back to the camp. Sunday I hunted a different property and heard several but nothing close enough to matter. Sunday was the best weather day - still, clear early, and cooler than it had been. I thought that would be the day. But game set and match to the birds.
Friday I was close to that spot and heard nothing. About 830 I was fixing to leave and saw a hen walking up, clucking now and then. After she wandered off I waited until about nine and was getting ready to leave again when one gobbled pretty close down the hill. I yelped and he didn’t answer but I sat tight. After what seemed like thirty minutes but was probably fifteen I slowly reached down to pick up my box call and yelp again. You can guess what happened. Loud putt from my right and there he goes running off. Turkeys two me still zero. Another lesson I should have learned long ago.
Saturday was windy as all get out and I heard nothing and the only two I saw were running down the dirt road while driving back to the camp. Sunday I hunted a different property and heard several but nothing close enough to matter. Sunday was the best weather day - still, clear early, and cooler than it had been. I thought that would be the day. But game set and match to the birds.
re: In Honor of Turkey Season
Posted by Wavefan on 3/16/26 at 11:58 pm to geauxbrown
I came to turkey hunting late. I knew there were turkeys on our land but only deer hunted. One of my partners turkey hunted with his brother in law and his stories got me interested. So I borrowed a pan call from him and tried to learn a basic yelp before going out for the first time.
That first time was a cold Saturday before Easter. I went to the part of the property where I had seen turkeys the most while deer hunting well before dawn and hunkered against a tree. Just had my regular shot gun and some number five hi brass, a camo coat and hat, and the borrowed pot call. Turkey vest, turkey gun, face mask, and turkey seat were far in the future if at all. When the first crows cawed, one gobbled and I did my best to melt into the tree. Then another sounded off, then another. I got so flummoxed and excited I was scared to call. When I finally did, at least three, maybe more, gobbled. This was a cold clear morning and I could hear the closest one almost coughing at the end of a double or triple gobble. I’m sure I probably just annoyed them but they gobbled and then gobbled some more. I realized that I probably wasn’t hidden well and slunk even lower and completely shut up.
I’d like to end this story with a gunshot and a tom flopping but that would be bs. I sat there with my heart racing as the gobbles gradually tapered off and didn’t see a turkey that morning. But I was hooked. That was over thirty years ago. It was two seasons later that I finally got one. I gradually added all the gear and more calls of various types than necessary and now when I deer hunt I’m spending most of the time scoping out where I want to for turkeys in the spring.
That first time was a cold Saturday before Easter. I went to the part of the property where I had seen turkeys the most while deer hunting well before dawn and hunkered against a tree. Just had my regular shot gun and some number five hi brass, a camo coat and hat, and the borrowed pot call. Turkey vest, turkey gun, face mask, and turkey seat were far in the future if at all. When the first crows cawed, one gobbled and I did my best to melt into the tree. Then another sounded off, then another. I got so flummoxed and excited I was scared to call. When I finally did, at least three, maybe more, gobbled. This was a cold clear morning and I could hear the closest one almost coughing at the end of a double or triple gobble. I’m sure I probably just annoyed them but they gobbled and then gobbled some more. I realized that I probably wasn’t hidden well and slunk even lower and completely shut up.
I’d like to end this story with a gunshot and a tom flopping but that would be bs. I sat there with my heart racing as the gobbles gradually tapered off and didn’t see a turkey that morning. But I was hooked. That was over thirty years ago. It was two seasons later that I finally got one. I gradually added all the gear and more calls of various types than necessary and now when I deer hunt I’m spending most of the time scoping out where I want to for turkeys in the spring.
It’s amazing to me how attractive old tin on the ground is for snakes. Boards, old appliances, etc. yield a few, but a tin pile in the country is way more productive. I know of a bunch of half buried tin from a collapsed shed on a high point in the woods in Monroe county Alabama that is home to more black racers and canebrakes than any other place I’ve seen. I don’t even have to flip there. Just wait for the day to warm up and they come out.
Max McGee. MVP of the very first superbowl.
Years ago when they stocked the pond at Fritchie Park in Slidell I caught a few fly fishing just floating a #12 royal wulff but did better slow stripping a #8 olive woolly bugger. I’m sure I could have caught them faster on spinning gear with power bait or corn but if I’m going to catch a rainbow trout I at least want to pretend like I’m doing it for real. Don’t know why they stopped stocking them around Slidell.
Just started using cameras with sd cards in September. Very useful to know what is wandering around- deer, turkeys, raccoons, bobcats, foxes, coyotes etc. And if there are any two legged predators or dogs. I agree that using cell cameras to go over to a spot to shoot a turkey or deer immediately after an “alert” is not sportsmanship. But with the old school sd card cams you can’t do that. You just get an idea of what is out there when you periodically read the cards. I have been surprised at the number of turkeys on the property and the quality of bucks roaming around.
You know why Alabama was the first Southern team to play in the Rose Bowl? Because Tulane declined the invitation. Not saying Bama hasn’t become a bigger brand in college football, but if you’re gonna spout history from the first half of the 20th century to support an argument, may want to dig a little more into the facts.
re: Realistically, not message board BS: If Bama fires Deboer next year, would Kiffin leave?
Posted by Wavefan on 12/6/25 at 9:00 pm to CalicoLSU1980
Kiffin would crawl across a Mississippi full of broken glass to coach Alabama. And I’m not a bama or an lsu fan, just realistic.
re: 2025-26 fall food plots
Posted by Wavefan on 7/14/25 at 11:21 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Oats and wheat. But not until October. Army worms ate up nearly everything planted last September.
“Pitch up and smear.” No kickoff, just throw the ball up (pitch up) and whoever caught it would run from everyone else who tried to tackle (smear) him. After a tackle, throw the ball up again. Repeat until someone got hurt bad enough to quit or it was time for supper.
re: Football rivalry week
Posted by Wavefan on 6/26/25 at 7:54 pm to YoungSteele830
There was an historic rivalry game in Louisiana on the Saturday after Thanksgiving for most of the last 100 years. It needs to resume.
re: What is the most annoying insect during the summer?
Posted by Wavefan on 5/5/25 at 11:18 pm to Kingshakabooboo
In lower Alabama and northwest Florida nothing is worse than the dreaded yellow fly. Mostly a spring and early summer scourge. First you hurt then you itch and if you get bit enough you can run a fever. We have them in southeastern Louisiana but not nearly as thick as east of here. In the Louisiana marsh gnats will drive you off the water in the spring in particular. Hate em both. I can live with skeeters but yellow flies and biting marsh gnats are the devil’s own spawn.
The best thing to plant for turkeys is chufa. What comes in second is far behind. Unfortunately chufa is expensive and unless you plant a lot of it the birds will eat it out. As will pigs if they are present.
re: Turkey Hunting
Posted by Wavefan on 3/22/25 at 8:07 pm to TutHillTiger
Tuthill - two things:
My favorite call is an old one sided box call I bought about twenty years ago from an old fellow in Georgiana name of Joyner. I suspect he may no longer be with us. It is a cedar wood call that makes the sweetest yelps. Don’t know if they were ever sold outside of a few local hardware stores in that area. But I treasure it.
Second, the best turkey hunter I ever knew personally was a lawyer from Mobile who passed away about five years ago. Name of Jody Little. He owned a bunch of beautiful long leaf pine land way out airport boulevard. Classic open canopy with hardwood trees along the bottoms. His greatest passion was Quail but during the spring turkey season he hunted just about every morning before going to his office downtown. He only shot maybe one or two a year but loved hearing them and seeing if he could get them to work. And he was good. Called like a live hen and knew when and when not to do it. Maybe you knew Jody.
My favorite call is an old one sided box call I bought about twenty years ago from an old fellow in Georgiana name of Joyner. I suspect he may no longer be with us. It is a cedar wood call that makes the sweetest yelps. Don’t know if they were ever sold outside of a few local hardware stores in that area. But I treasure it.
Second, the best turkey hunter I ever knew personally was a lawyer from Mobile who passed away about five years ago. Name of Jody Little. He owned a bunch of beautiful long leaf pine land way out airport boulevard. Classic open canopy with hardwood trees along the bottoms. His greatest passion was Quail but during the spring turkey season he hunted just about every morning before going to his office downtown. He only shot maybe one or two a year but loved hearing them and seeing if he could get them to work. And he was good. Called like a live hen and knew when and when not to do it. Maybe you knew Jody.
re: Turkey Hunting
Posted by Wavefan on 3/20/25 at 10:44 pm to TutHillTiger
Sounds like you may be south of the red hills but on the Alabama or Tombigbee River. Get one before the bugs get too fierce!
re: Turkey Hunting
Posted by Wavefan on 3/20/25 at 10:36 pm to TutHillTiger
I think the season opens Tuesday. At least I hope so. Heading for the red hills after work Monday.
re: Turkey Hunting
Posted by Wavefan on 3/20/25 at 4:31 pm to TutHillTiger
Don’t know the terrain our newbie is hunting but I’ll add that if it is like the places where tuthill and I hunt in lower Alabama, don’t expect the birds to flock in the spring into the green patches planted for deer near as much as they do in the fall. I hunt hilly terrain with pine tops and hardwood bottoms and most of the green patches are on the ridges. Spring turkeys, gobblers in particular, seem to do most of their strutting and relations with hens in the oak bottoms or along little streams. Sometimes they come out into the deer green patches, but setting up for that to happen lowers the overall odds at least where I hunt. Exception is if you plant chufa. They come into those patches. But not so much in the spring into the wheat/oats/rye green patches on deer hunting grounds. If you find an obvious strut zone with wing drag marks and feathers that’s where you need to be and occasionally that might be in a deer green patch but it’s usually not.
A few counties in Alabama are holding strong. Statewide populations are declining. Fortunately I hunt in an area where numbers are good and recent hatches have fared well. And I am not putting any appreciable dent in those numbers. I miss the March 15 opening but I understand why it has been pushed back.
I’ve been doing it for 25 years and each passing season I realize more than the season before that turkey hunting is hard and I am not nearly as good at it as I used to think I was. The best advice I can give is figure out where the turkeys are and get in a spot nearby where you can see but you are hidden. Go out right at dusk and carefully walk woods roads or trails and use an owl hoot. Sometimes this will get a gobbler to gobble back on the roost. Once he does, figure out the best you can where he is and shut up and quietly leave. Most of the time all you will do is get real owls to hoot. When you figure out the spot you need to be in, get there quietly and with no white flashlight well before dawn. Hide. I think camo and a headnet are important but being against a tree and with something in front of you that breaks your outline is more important. And being perfectly still and silent is even more important. Being comfortable like on one of those padded or webbed turkey seats will help you be still longer. As a beginner you probably don’t want to call at all unless you hear a gobble. When you do call use a pot or slate call and keep it to a simple three note yelp. Then shut up. Sometimes they come in gobbling. Sometimes they come in silent. Usually they don’t come at all or stop too far away to shoot. Accept that even the best turkey hunters fail more often than succeed. Do not yelp every time he gobbles if he gobbles. Maybe yelp 15 minutes apart for a bird that seems interested and is gobbling but doesn’t seem to be getting closer. If and when you know a Tom is coming, shut up, don’t call. He knows where the yelp came from. All you will probably do by continuing to call is spook the bird by movement or by making a bad sound. Try to have your gun in a ready position across a knee before the bird gets within sight. You don’t want it leaning against the tree or laying on the ground. And realize that even if he comes within range he is just as likely to sneak up behind you. That’s just how it is. Final words- be where the turkeys are and be still. The rest is subordinate.
A good strategy, but not the only one, is to take the job that you think gives you the most options to move to the other jobs. Generally, and it may vary from state to state and city to city, if you had good grades and honors such as law review or moot court, a job at a high quality firm with a good reputation that only hires top notch is a good starting point, and then you can move into the other positions from there whereas you might not be able to start at one of the others and then move into that job later. And high quality firms are not always the biggest. If your grades and honors were ho-hum, a path to maybe improving the odds of landing a quality job in private practice is to work for a DA or the US Attorney for a while, but this will likely position you solely for jobs as a litigator, and there are far more options than just courtrooms for lawyers. If you have connections back home that you are confident will give you the type of business you want and the type of money you need, and are sure you don't want to be a "big city" lawyer, like for example if you have kinfolk or close friends that can send you quality paying work right off the bat, then that may be your play, but it is far easier to start at a big corporate job or a quality firm and then move into the "hometown' lawyer role than vice-versa.
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