re: Gun Violence and Youth/Young Adults

Lyndon Baines Johnson

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They say he was beaten to death with a bat. Or stabbed to death. It’s really the same thing. Just shorter. Would you rather, “he was shot to death with a gun?” That would make it better for you?

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If you don’t understand the anti gun lobbies tactics, I can’t help you.

Was wondering the same thing yesterday.

This is NOT a gun violence issue.......
This is NOT a youth /young adult violence issue......

This is a young black male problem. Its root likely has to do with the absent father figure in most of these families. This is compounded by the other problem, weak arse judges & DA's that feel sorry for these evil souls.

TV shows, video games and movies have taught an entire generation that human life has no real value

We are truly screwed in the future

Two problems are working together.

1. The legal gun trade. Its pretty easy to get a gun in the streets. I wish there were numbers on how many shooting deaths are done by the person who the gun is registered under their name. I would be surprised if there was one street violence shooting in which the gun is registered to the shooter.

I am sure many of you experienced the same thing, but growing up I was taught that when it comes to a gun you never assume. Don't ever assume a gun isn't loaded. Don't ever point a gun at someone unless they are a threat to you or your family and in that case you should be ready to shoot. A gun isn't a toy, its a tool. You don't just shoot towards something, you have to aim. People in the streets don't have the home life that teaches then right from wrong which brings me to the next thing.

2. Parenting. You have a bunch of single women having kids they either don't give a frick about or they are just living the way they grew up as well. There is no planning... they frick, no protection is used and before you know it there are with 4 kids, 4 different daddies. They then grow up in an environment where there isn't a father around. No one is normalizing the fact that if you are an adult you wake up and you go to work because it cost money to raise a family. And that people have to be responsible for their actions.

People will say its the movies, music and video games and it very well might be, but even then I still have to blame the parents. Growing up, I listened to "Gangster rap" and I watched a bunch of movies with violence. I even had a Rambo toy weapon thing that had a fake gun, a fake knife and a camo cloth to tie around your head. I used to watch Rambo and Commando all the time, but I knew there was a difference between TV and real life. I think another problem is that maybe there are parents who keep their kids away from reality thinking they are protecting them and as a result there are kids who are just not aware that there are some things their parents will not be able to get them out of or that there are consequences to their actions.

Also, it seems like there are a lot of parents who are more like friends with their kids than parents. And they just let the kid do whatever... And as that kid gets older, they don't have "if I do this my momma will beat my arse" voice in their head.

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yeah, I still don’t believe there are any truthful metrics that would show a “vastly lower” difference in the two timeframes.

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Impervious to facts, got it.

Do you at least acknowledge the fact that having video of every single crime and fight now at least in theory could make it seem like it's more ubiquitous even when it's not?

Because trust me - nobody in Baton Rouge in 1985 knew if there had been a fight at a random mall in Sacramento.

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this is their idea of a love song.

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Not quite Sweet Child O’ Mine. Such trash lyrics in that song.

Not all the kids are listening to that trash though. My step-daughter begged and succeeded at getting to tickets to see Weezer this summer so there’s hope.

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reported crime statistics are facts now huh? interesting theory.

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Yes, directionally, over a very long period of time, crime stats are clearly accurate. Again, it's nearly impossible to hide dead bodies (homicides) and it's very difficult to hide serious violent crime.

For your conspiracy theory to be true, we would have to believe that a massive hodgepodge of THOUSANDS of municipalities have all acted in concert - across numerous parties and administrations - to pretend crime is much lower now than it used to be.

And it isn't only the US - crime plummeted around the world during the same time frame.

I mean, have you ever seen Boyz n the Hood? LA was a fricking WARZONE in the late 80s and early 90s. Art like that was reaction to that fact. Escape from NYC? That was from like 1981. Just go look at the numbers now. Even if you include life saving emergency medicine diminishing the number of homicides now, the old number still dwarfs the current number.