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re: Gun Violence and Youth/Young Adults

Posted on 4/26/26 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/26/26 at 7:54 pm to
I’m with you on the big-picture trend: crime overall is likely down from decades ago.

We also know for a fact:
- Not all crimes get reported to police
- Not all reported crimes get recorded the same way across jurisdictions
- Many cities have been caught downgrading or reclassifying offenses to make numbers look better

None of that requires some grand coordinated effort across “thousands of municipalities.” It just requires local incentives, inconsistent standards, and human nature. (All conveniently prevalent in Blue urban centers)

So no, I’m just not buying the idea that the data is so clean and airtight today that questioning parts of it makes someone a conspiracy theorist. That’s a little dramatic. Like it, don’t like it, I don’t care. Call me what you want, bud.
This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
1544 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 7:56 pm to
Dims
Posted by Rainier Fog
Member since Jul 2025
1544 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 7:57 pm to
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Need to put birth control in marijuana and wait a few decades for this problem to be reduced.



I've come to the conclusion that we need to support Dims in their push for abortion. It's the one thing they get right, abort as many Dims as possible.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40112 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Not all crimes get reported to police
I reject this with regard to homicide and major violent crimes.

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Not all reported crimes get recorded the same way across jurisdictions
Right. Which weakens your grand conspiracy argument.

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Many cities have been caught downgrading or reclassifying offenses to make numbers look better
Certainly. And some crime IS up - it's just that it's more minor offenses.

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None of that requires some grand coordinated effort across “thousands of municipalities.” It just requires local incentives, inconsistent standards, and human nature. (All conveniently prevalent in Blue urban centers)
This would make sense if it were at the margin. But the numbers are vastly lower than they used to be. NYC used to have like 2200 murders/year and now I think it's less than 300. The lowest all time was 2017 and this year the pace is even lower (200ish pace). No amount of fudging or downgrading or whatever can possibly bridge that gap. The fact is, there is vastly less homicide in NYC now. (This is just one example). It almost necessarily would follow that "youth/young adult gun violence" would have to be lower as well. You also are still ignoring the global downward trend in crime over the same time period.

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So no, I’m just not buying the idea that the data is so clean and airtight today that questioning parts of it makes someone a conspiracy theorist. That’s a little dramatic. Like it, don’t like it, I don’t care. Call me what you want, bud.
Question it at the margin, sure. Asserting that gun violence today is not lower than the past is simply not in accord with any data at all, even if you highly discount it in the direction you would like.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3352 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:01 pm to
The brain's frontal cortex, responsible for integrating left- and right-side thoughts and outputting them in a thoughtful, mature manner, does not fully form until the age of 25 or so.
Posted by SmelvinRat
Slumwoody
Member since Oct 2015
2114 posts
Posted on 4/26/26 at 11:21 pm to
Is she a troublemaker?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32325 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 5:47 am to
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Is she a troublemaker?


No, not at all.

Smart arse = yes
Troublemaker = no.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
11041 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 5:52 am to
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The brain's frontal cortex, responsible for integrating left- and right-side thoughts and outputting them in a thoughtful, mature manner, does not fully form until the age of 25 or so.


I don’t give a frick. Put a needle in them.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 5:53 am
Posted by doc baklava
Between heaven and hell
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:58 am to
Posted by AncientArousal
Member since Jul 2025
202 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:01 am to
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I've come to the conclusion that we need to support Dims in their push for abortion. It's the one thing they get right, abort as many Dims as possible.


Exactly. Make it as easy as possible for them to abort. Even incentivize it.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6776 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:50 am to
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Violence and Youth/Young Adults


FIFY

and the issue is the same 5% of the population keeps engaging in the same activity but the politicians and the left want to give them a 4th, 5th, 6th 7th, chance....
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3352 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:41 am to
Yeah, the ignorance and immaturity of youth simply cannot be used as a shield for a young adult's actions.

The poster asked basically, why do they act that way? And it's a good question, why do high schoolers and college students do such dumb things, e.g., fighting, drug and alcohol abuse, promiscuity, dancing with trains, car surfing, etc.

The point I was making is that in the absence of fully developed frontal cortex (women develop a little earlier than men), many of the decisions made in response to intense stimulus is made by the more primal portion of the brain (in back near the brain stem,which controls the fight, flight or freeze reflexes) rather than the more reserved frontal cortex.
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