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re: Gun shot in the air - How long does it take for the bullet to fall back to ground?

Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:42 am to
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:42 am to
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All objects fall at the same rate


This is true only in a vacuum. Otherwise, parachutes would be useless.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:48 am to
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Lack of humidity is, which is taken into account when sighting rifles in for long range shoot, hence the balls being kept in a humidor. I was just trying to use it as an example although it was not a good one.


Nope. It's lower air density. The air is less dense at that altitude and creates less drag on the ball. Higher humidity also creates less density and less drag. Moisture content of the balls is a separate issue.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47501 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:06 am to
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Higher humidity also creates less density and less drag.


Think you meant lower humidity. Water vapor is denser than air therefore higher humidity creates more density and more drag.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:14 am to
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All objects fall at the same rate


This is true only in a vacuum. Otherwise, parachutes would be useless.




i never said anything about resistance
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:20 am to
Variables to consider.

Discharge velocity.
Angle of launch.
Ballistic Coefficient.
Terminal velocity on Earth.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 11:22 am
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:24 am to
A girl...how much does she weigh?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:25 am to
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fall back to ground


If it's free falling it won't have the velocity to kill unless it's a really big round. The angle has to be shallow enough to maintain a lethal horizontal velocity.

Either way, you would have to know the bullet's trajectory and initial velocity to determine the amount of time it's in the air.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 11:28 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:25 am to
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Moisture content of the balls is a separate issue.


Its an issue Ive been working on for years but my wife is a cold bitch in the sack.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20897 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:41 am to
I wondered about this question when I went quail hunting. We're shooting (and missing) at quail flying through the air. Those bullets had to go somewhere.

In the next field over was some kind of tower shoot party for pheasant. They weren't that far away. We could hear their gunshots. Surely if our bullets were pointed in that direction and missed the quail, we had a chance at hitting someone over there.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8245 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:45 am to
I have no clue. My physics professor never prepared me for real world problems like this. He always started with "neglecting air resistance and wind speed/direction"....and that just killed it for real world use.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 11:51 am to
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Did no one take physics in school?
Was not given at my school, unfortunately. Didn't take it in college bc didn't know I would enjoy it.
Posted by The Scofflaw
Metairie, LA
Member since Sep 2014
1940 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:05 pm to
Everything comes into play that far. Humidity elevation, temp, winds, spin-drift. There's a 6-10 second flight time so you have to shoot it where the targets going to be. Even the coriolis effect, the spin of the earth comes into play.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:06 pm to
There are way too many variables dude, no chance
Posted by Bareknuckles
Close, LA
Member since Mar 2017
152 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:08 pm to
Got a way to find out, go shoot one and count the seconds. Then we all would know.
Posted by BeauxNArreaux
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2016
796 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:28 pm to
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Water vapor is denser than air


incorrect. A water molecule (~18 g/mol) is lighter than the rest of the gasses in the air (i.e. oxygen ~32 g/mol, nitrogen gas 28 g/mol), therefore decreasing the average density of the air.

When calculating scope holdover, you treat higher humidity like higher altitude. Sea level on a humid day can shoot similar to a couple thousand feet of elevation in a desert.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:28 pm to
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Angle, caliber, powder load and vertical or horizontal grip of pistol are all factors that must be considered.


The type of round will also affect how quickly it falls. Hollowpernt = more drag = lower terminal velocity.
Posted by BeauxNArreaux
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2016
796 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:37 pm to
Most bullets actually fall sideways. The "football spiral" position we typically think of for bullets is actually very unstable when the bullet quits rotating.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:48 pm to
the horse is named friday
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:05 pm to
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A girl...how much does she weigh?


Her weight varies based on how many beers or shots you have had.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:10 pm to
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