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re: Gun shot in the air - How long does it take for the bullet to fall back to ground?

Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by the4thgen
Dallas, tx
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:45 pm to
That is all things related to air density, not any kind of "level of gravity" Gravity is a set rate of acceleration as a component of force exerted on one object by another.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:05 pm to
need to know escape velocity and angle also technically wind speed / direction, but the first two would be good enough to get a decent estimate.

Also horizontal distance traveled from firing to ground level impact could be utilized as opposed to angle of travel if necessary.

For a generally accurate estimate, all you need to know is the angle upon firing and escape velocity. More info will be needed for more technical answers or if one of the above is not known.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 2:09 pm
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Gravity is a set rate of acceleration as a component of force exerted on one object by another.




Exactly. Which is why you can't solve this problem until you find out what level it's at.
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:13 pm to
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I wondered about this question when I went quail hunting. We're shooting (and missing) at quail flying through the air. Those bullets had to go somewhere.


Um, hopefully you weren't shooting bullets into the air to hunt birds, but rather used a shotgun. Bird shot will not travel over about 200 or 300 yards. Even high-brass pheasant loads shouldn't travel much more. As long as people aren't shooting low birds, there isn't much to worry about. I've had shot rain down on me several times while dove hunting. Eye protection isn't a bad idea.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9318 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:15 pm to
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Don't forget the bird density in the area.


True.

Bird law is such a blindspot.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47501 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:44 pm to
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incorrect. A water molecule (~18 g/mol) is lighter than the rest of the gasses in the air (i.e. oxygen ~32 g/mol, nitrogen gas 28 g/mol), therefore decreasing the average density of the air.


Went with an intuitive assessment rather than double checking specific gravity. Thanks for the correction.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10293 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Gun shot in the air - How long does it take for the bullet to fall back to ground? by Street Hawk


At times like this I like to defer to my favorite philosopher:

"You can discover everything you need to know about everything by looking at your hands."

-Jaden Smith

Posted by Dave lsu 89
B.R,/ Houston
Member since Jun 2016
3879 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:05 pm to
minus surface gravity!
Posted by Dave lsu 89
B.R,/ Houston
Member since Jun 2016
3879 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:09 pm to
let's find out....i have a glock 29 10 mm i will fire it straight into the air, hall arse and time it!
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:09 pm to
missing velocity and vector assuming no other variable like wind, humidity and temperature are having effect.

handguns do not have extraordinary range however, a few seconds would be a reasonable assumption.
Posted by Dave lsu 89
B.R,/ Houston
Member since Jun 2016
3879 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:11 pm to
Bushmaster 5.56?
Posted by Dave lsu 89
B.R,/ Houston
Member since Jun 2016
3879 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:13 pm to
we all should know terminal velocity is -9.8m/s 2nd minus wind deflection so what say you?
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

That is all things related to air density, not any kind of "level of gravity" Gravity is a set rate of acceleration as a component of force exerted on one object by another.


nope. gravity can and does fluctuate. LSU students proved it in 2015.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

we all should know terminal velocity is -9.8m/s 2nd minus wind deflection so what say you?


still have to account for initial velocity and vector to obtain the maximum altitude then apply terminal velocity.

your turn
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:20 pm to
Depends on if it was a liberal or a white man.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:25 pm to
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we all should know terminal velocity is -9.8m/s 2nd
wut? Me thinks you don't know what you're talking about.

9.8 m/s is acceleration due to gravity
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:27 pm to
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9.8 m/s is acceleration due to gravity


1. That should be "meters over seconds squared", the way you wrote it is "meters per second"

2. The level of gravity has to be known, if your using Colorado or Sweden gravity then it's not gonna be the same as Louisiana gravity. 9.8 is a good estimation but not close enough for this problem.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5240 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Depends on if it was a liberal or a white man.


It also depends if the gun was being held sideways...then the thug would have missed the sky and hit 2 good baw didn'dos innocently just happening by on their way to a job interview
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 3:33 pm to
quote:


1. That should be "meters over seconds squared", the way you wrote it is "meters per second"



That's fair, but I only left it as it is because m/s^2 looks faggy.
quote:


2. The level of gravity has to be known, if your using Colorado or Sweden gravity then it's not gonna be the same as Louisiana gravity. 9.8 is a good estimation but not close enough for this problem
fricking Louisiana uses all the gravity...
Posted by stniaSxuaeG
Member since Apr 2014
1615 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:54 am to
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Angle, caliber, powder load and vertical or horizontal grip of pistol are all factors that must be considered.
Good point. Also, is this an assault weapon, or a weapon that can only be used for hunting?
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