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re: Grown men avoiding responsibility at work

Posted on 8/14/24 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6105 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 10:36 pm to
I deal with it everyday, especially the lazy ones that are in the union. No accountability whatsoever
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4269 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 10:51 pm to
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“well my boss didn’t tell me to do that”

Sorry the manager didn’t tell the fry cook to help you on the grill tonight.

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“I sent them an email about this problem so I don’t get egg on my face”

When you make assistant manager in about 20 years you’ll understand why you have to email corporate about all kinds of BS.

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“I gotta cover my arse”

It’s generally verboten to walk around a fast food restaurant with your arse exposed to customers.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10857 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 10:52 pm to
These responses are the most Louisiana thing I’ve ever read.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16246 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 10:59 pm to
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I sent them an email about this problem


Completely acceptable in some situations.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31822 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 11:20 pm to
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I’m sorry this is above my pay grade.


Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17737 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 11:56 pm to
I'm one of those, at times.

Why? Because I'm posting here, on TD.


Like you are.
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
21373 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 5:44 am to
Because if you bust your arse for the company, you're rewarded with a lame-arse pizza. However, you're also likely to be fired or laid off on a whim. It's best to just not be noticed sometimes and fly under the radar.
Posted by bcgator
bear country
Member since Nov 2018
116 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 6:55 am to
Exactly what is going on in my job now.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
5500 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:07 am to
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“I sent them an email about this problem so I don’t get egg on my face” and the famous “I gotta cover my arse”


Context is important here, but covering your own arse should be a basic rule everyone follows at work. That doesn't mean setting up others to fail or avoiding your responsibilities though.

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well my boss didn’t tell me to do that


This one actually isn't bad depending on your org chart. I tell my employees to route people making requests to me because its easier for me to tell a fellow senior level manager to piss off if we don't have the resources to do it than it is for some of my lower level team members.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63000 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:12 am to
A lot of people's malaise about work is likely tied to their belief that performing well doesn't count for anything, which in many workplaces it doesn't have any effect on raises. Your company will leech off your good performance as much as they can and never offer a raise unless you ask and then when you ask they'll debate you and make you convince them to give you a raise.


The employer-employee trust has been dead for awhile now.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
69350 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:13 am to
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Because if you bust your arse for the company, you're rewarded with a lame-arse pizza. However, you're also likely to be fired or laid off on a whim. It's best to just not be noticed sometimes and fly under the radar.




Don't forget getting peanuts for your yearly "cost of living adjustment" raise that maybe is half of inflation while getting surpassed by new hires who you'll end up having to train. Upper management will bitch about loyalty while incentivizing job hopping.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55683 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:14 am to
Corporate structures are stealing motivation. They want robots.
Posted by Poichess
Member since Jun 2019
1121 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:15 am to
There’s no such thing as bad teams, only bad leaders.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34789 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:16 am to
quote:

man generally gets punished for doing a good job.

Not in a quality organization...
We reward them and pay them well.

The rest of 'em, we run off.

That's why we're the best in our field and our attrition rate is practically 0.0
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 7:20 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60817 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:25 am to
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Upper management is so full of people who don’t know what they are doing, they will criticize and question even good decisions. So people just avoid as much as they can.


These types will gleefully throw subordinates under the bus for perceived failures when they know they, themselves, will suffer no repercussions yet will take credit for obvious successes.
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2540 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:27 am to
Actually having a dick and balls is "above their pay grade."
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30831 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:29 am to
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It’s shitty management. Higher ups micromanage every decision and don’t empower anyone to handle anything so nobody will make a move without getting approval room somebody.
I think another issue is that employees are punished/rewarded for outcomes, not for how they are doing their job. You can "do the right thing" (which is probably in most companies values statement) and still get punished for it if some other factor leads to that "right thing" not working out.

So, employees now just sit back and do the thing that will lead to the smallest amount of negative repercussions, regardless of whether it is easy, hard, wrong, or right.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
2909 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:30 am to
Half the people at my office refuse to make a decision on their own because they don't want to make the wrong one and get in trouble. Despite being licensed professionals with the knowledge to do so.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21155 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:38 am to
One of my supervisors told me that, although you have a job description to dictate what you do each day for the department, your job is whatever I put on your desk! I had no problem with that at all…..
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34789 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:18 am to
" other duties as assigned "
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