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re: Government employees, what's it like at your job?
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:46 pm to Bard
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:46 pm to Bard
I've got the max 320 pto hours you can accumulate and roll over. I've got 80 bonus hours that don't go away. I use whatever I accumulate over the 320. Roughly 5 weeks a year.
If I'm fired or leave that 400 hours total is paid out to me. I look at it as insurance in case I stroke or heart attack out and survive.
I do a lot of carrying in my department as not many have the experience and expertise to do proper troubleshooting. And nobody wants to get off their arse and do physical work. So it rolls to me.
If it wasn't for the pto and 100% paid insurances I'd hit the door.
If I'm fired or leave that 400 hours total is paid out to me. I look at it as insurance in case I stroke or heart attack out and survive.
I do a lot of carrying in my department as not many have the experience and expertise to do proper troubleshooting. And nobody wants to get off their arse and do physical work. So it rolls to me.
If it wasn't for the pto and 100% paid insurances I'd hit the door.
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:49 pm to Bard
I crossed over from state to private for 50% more pay and I do less work. Lot less stressful.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:50 pm to theliontamer
Every office i ever worked in had people who worked hard and people who slacked off. People who showed up no matter what and people who called in on day's that they didn't feel like working.
Long ago semi-government amd private and family owned small.
Long ago semi-government amd private and family owned small.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:50 pm to theliontamer
Nice try boss lady. I’m on my lunch break but I’m very very busy
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:52 pm to theliontamer
Work with scientists in multiple state agencies. Always found them to be hard working and passionate about their field of expertise.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:53 pm to theliontamer
Government “jobs” are just a daycare to keep white women from having children
Corporations are the same but at least the taxpayer doesn’t pay for those
Do y’all really think the government or Coca Cola needs hundreds of women doing social media outreach or hr or whatever
Corporations are the same but at least the taxpayer doesn’t pay for those
Do y’all really think the government or Coca Cola needs hundreds of women doing social media outreach or hr or whatever
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:53 pm to Lugnut
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Ask me anything
Does your wife use the fancy lube when pegging you?
Posted on 7/1/25 at 12:56 pm to theliontamer
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So you manage an office that has no in house employees and you just do their jobs?
Have you been paying attention? He probably lost his staff to retirements and layoffs. People are leaving the Federal government in droves because of all the turmoil.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:00 pm to SoDakHawk
O, I read that as the employees work from home and don't do anything so he has to do their job.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:06 pm to LouisianaLady
I worked in the government for about 5 years and can attest to this. I had plenty of people I worked with leave for the private sector. Ive been out of the government for 3 years and can honestly say 1 person has left to go back to the government in that time. I know many more people want to leave the government than the private sector.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:11 pm to theliontamer
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Most people think government employees sit around and do very little work. What has you experience been? Could the job get done with fewer employees?
My particular government job needs more employees, not less.
It's a smaller professional specialized group though with fairly competitive pay and benefits. I'm adjacent to plenty of other government workers that work hard, as well as several that are wastes of oxygen.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:11 pm to Bard
Pensions for govt workers need to die.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:13 pm to Bard
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then put them in a corner and never get rid of them because it meets some unnamed quota
It's not an unnamed quota. FedGov recommends 7% of employees are disabled in someway, even if they're private companies. If you sell so much as a pencil eraser to Fed.gov or any of their contractors or service providers, this information can be used against you. This is why every, single, job application asks about you declaring a disability (among the racial and latino/not latino questions.)
I've worked with state agencies in at least fives states, and FedGov. Most IT people that work in those places are essentially resigned to die/retire in that job, using little to no money to keep the lights on. The only exception seems to be if a publicized breach occurs, then all of a sudden everyone finds money and motivation. FedGov and contractors like to do things like schedule daily 2+ hour conference calls with 30+ consultants that charge 200-350 an hour (I wish I was kidding.)
The non IT people... Well, you've probably seen in a couple of threads how difficult it is to get DCFS (in LA, and CPS in TX) to ... you know... do something about seemingly homeless kids. Get those steps in and put up more posters about rights given to pregnant employees...
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:16 pm to LemmyLives
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It's not an unnamed quota. FedGov recommends 7% of employees are disabled in someway, even if they're private companies.
Link?
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:28 pm to Lugnut
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under the last administration i was called a racist and now I’m called a leach and parasite.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:31 pm to theliontamer
Worked in a big corporation and at the state. Very little difference.
The biggest difference are:
1. In a corporation profit that drives purchasing and deadlines.
In the state the funding is the funding - there is no more coming until next fiscal year.
2. Corruption in the corporation is usually done by the top echelon. When the bottom line is not met the janitor gets fired.
In the state corruption is done by politicians trying to bend the department to their will (this is not just the governor). When someone finds out the politician blames the agency and the media jumps on board because agencies do not by advertisement.
3. As far as worker output. I have managed a lot of groups. Private business is no different than government. You have just as many good and bad employees.
Major difference is it is a little easier to fire private workers, but there are more lawsuits. Private workers get rewarded when successful where government employees rarely do - unless you are politically connected which most are not.
In government it is harder to remove employees but I found that most employees start off great and get frustrated by the red tape, politicians, changing laws, and lack of funding/regulations that hinder their success that eventually they become institutionalized and realize they cannot make a difference, but they are in too far to move on. They also get frustrated with the politically connected and terrible employees who get the same pay they get regardless of how little they do.
The biggest difference are:
1. In a corporation profit that drives purchasing and deadlines.
In the state the funding is the funding - there is no more coming until next fiscal year.
2. Corruption in the corporation is usually done by the top echelon. When the bottom line is not met the janitor gets fired.
In the state corruption is done by politicians trying to bend the department to their will (this is not just the governor). When someone finds out the politician blames the agency and the media jumps on board because agencies do not by advertisement.
3. As far as worker output. I have managed a lot of groups. Private business is no different than government. You have just as many good and bad employees.
Major difference is it is a little easier to fire private workers, but there are more lawsuits. Private workers get rewarded when successful where government employees rarely do - unless you are politically connected which most are not.
In government it is harder to remove employees but I found that most employees start off great and get frustrated by the red tape, politicians, changing laws, and lack of funding/regulations that hinder their success that eventually they become institutionalized and realize they cannot make a difference, but they are in too far to move on. They also get frustrated with the politically connected and terrible employees who get the same pay they get regardless of how little they do.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:33 pm to Dawgfanman
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“getting their steps in”
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eating cake to celebrate something.
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Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:35 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I saw the 7% in a job application this morning. And no, insufferable retard is not a selection I could have made if I wanted to. This is boilerplate I've seen on hundreds of jobs this year, because this section is directly from the federal form (PDF warning):
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EEOC
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Voluntary Self-Identification of Disability
Form CC-305
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OMB Control Number 1250-0005
Expires 04/30/2026
Why are you being asked to complete this form?
We are a federal contractor or subcontractor. The law requires us to provide equal employment opportunity to qualified people with disabilities. We have a goal of having at least 7% of our workers as people with disabilities.
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Affirmative Action for People with Disabilities in Federal
Employment
The EEOC released a final rule to amend regulations related to Section 501 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 on January 3, 2017.76 This rule sets a goal of a 12% representation rate for PWD and a 2% representation rate for PWTD for federal agencies. These benchmarks are also used as
hiring goals. According to an EEOC report that was released in April 2022, “Among permanent hires, the Federal government exceeded its 2% goal for hiring of PWTD (2.36% of permanent appointments), but agencies failed to meet the 12% goal for PWD (11.20%).”78 The EEOC includes PWTD who count towards the 2% goal in the counting of the broader 12% goal for PWD.
If Congress wishes to consider options for legislation that may increase hiring of PWD and PWTD, it could require the participation/hiring goals to be increased from their current levels. In addition, Congress may consider implementing a penalty for agencies that do not meet the set goals. There are currently no consequences for agencies that fail to meet these goals. Congress might also consider whether the PWTD who are counted toward both the 2% hiring goal for PWTD and the 12% hiring goal for PWD should continue to be double counted. Congress could statutorily require agencies to meet a 12% hiring goal for PWD without counting those
considered PWTD toward that goal
EEOC
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:43 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Pensions for govt workers need to die.
Please explain.
Usually the answer is because you don't get something so you don't want anyone else to get it either.
Posted on 7/1/25 at 1:57 pm to winkchance
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In government it is harder to remove employees but I found that most employees start off great and get frustrated by the red tape, politicians, changing laws, and lack of funding/regulations that hinder their success that eventually they become institutionalized and realize they cannot make a difference, but they are in too far to move on. They also get frustrated with the politically connected and terrible employees who get the same pay they get regardless of how little they do.
Nailed it.
ETA: And my current state job has no pension, they did away with that a while ago.. I have a more traditional retirement plan with a state match similar to what exists in most private corporations.
This post was edited on 7/1/25 at 1:59 pm
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