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Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. Do you agree with the adage?

Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:22 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:22 am



It’s been evidenced in history, I’d venture. That the lean years bring out the hardiest of stock, while in times of feast even the strong grow fat in the absence of real hardship.

Our forbears saw the hard times. I remember listening to my grandfather talk about how everything he owned he had to keep in a cigar box because he never knew when they’d have to leave because they weren’t able to afford the rent. They’d have to leave in the middle of the night.

I remember him telling me how they’d all clean their plates because they didn’t know when their next meal would be. And how that hardscrabble education drove him in life. That he vowed his family would never grow hungry, and he’d never be forced to leave his belongings behind again.

My grandfather was a strong man. And he made good for his family.

But I fear the lessons his generation learned the hard way might have to be learned again.
I hope that I learned enough from them to be able to get my family through what’s to come.

What do you think lies ahead?

Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39313 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:25 am to
I’ve thought about this phrase a lot the past few days. Definitely seems like we’re in the midst of a swing of hard times
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78706 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:25 am to
These are some good times
So take a good look around
You may not know it now
But you're gonna miss this
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135044 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:26 am to
I fear we lived in the halcyon days and most of us didn’t even realize it

Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:26 am to
Boomers and Obama ruined everything.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
53839 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:31 am to
I remember my paw paw telling me that it was a wonderful treat when their dad brought home to he and his 7 siblings a big pack of peanuts during the Great Depression.

He was born in 1919 and often preached to me as a kid that the greatest asset that you can ever own is land. I didn't listen well but we still own his land.

He taught me how to farm too. I slaughtered chickens and cows and learned how to grow tomatoes, cucumbers, corn etc at 10 years old.

I thought he was mean at the time. Now that I'm older, I realize that he was teaching me how to survive and be self sufficient.

He was teaching me how to feed my family in case of the end of everything else. He was smarter than I am.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 12:54 am
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:50 am to
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22084 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:19 am to
quote:

Boomers and Obama ruined everything.


Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:04 am to
quote:

What do you think lies ahead? 

Hard times create good posters
Good posters create good posts
Good posts lead to bad posters
Bad posters create bad posts
Bad posts create hard times
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58878 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:46 am to
Whole point of the Dune books
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135044 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:57 am to
I
quote:

Whole point of the Dune books



Masterfully crafted and it’s a shame more people haven’t read them.

Fantastic literature and a seminal work for me. I found a copy of Dune under a desk in Brother Barry’s class and it literally changed my life.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
14079 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:03 am to
Soon enough weak men will be running this country for decades from their parents' basements. They already can't handle staying home for a couple of weeks to save their grandparents from a horrible death ...
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72897 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:49 am to
Absolutely.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76206 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:17 am to
My dad (no pics, Aggies) was born in ‘26.

One year for Christmas he got an orange.

His experience marked on him to the extent that he passed to me traits that have allowed me to be in OK financial shape for the current COVID economic shite.

Hopefully I’ve passed that ethos down to some degree to the Little Füts.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2837 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:29 am to
I believe it was Julius Caesar who said when referencing the Gauls, said that "The Gauls ascended the ladder in wooden shoes, but descended it in silk slippers."
His point was that he was able to subdue them in large part to their leadership going soft with the luxuries that the Romans brought to them.
Posted by farad
Member since Dec 2013
12752 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:38 am to
everything is cyclical...
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14343 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:52 am to
You are getting downvotes, but this has been proven true time and time again throughout history. Great nations rot from within which leads to failure or a diminished place in the world.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7245 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:59 am to
quote:

Soon enough weak men will be running this country for decades from their parents' basements. They already can't handle staying home for a couple of weeks to save their grandparents from a horrible death .


We already have a weak man running the country. Talks a big game but weak as hell
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42785 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:00 am to
I thought it preceded Caesar and was actually spoke about the Greeks when comparing them to the Persians.

At least that’s where I first heard the wooden slipper analogy used. It was in the HH podcast on the Persian kings.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:01 am to
No, it is a ridiculous oversimplification of history, and it irks me every time I see it. You'd have to be willfully ignoring details in order to create the narrative that a whole era was a "good time." What meets the criteria for a good time anyway? Who gets to decide those criteria, in a historical sense? You could make a whole series of arguments about how most of human history was "bad," given the nutritional deficiencies of humans after the Neolithic Revolution til the Agricultural Revolution, the near constant state of war and violence, and the relatively slow rate of technological progress, in a macroscopic sense. Life wasn't very good for the vast majority of people for most of human history.

It is very stupid meme.
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