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re: Friends asking you to contribute to travel ball teams...

Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:12 am to
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I hate fundraising. I just write that check. I'm not annoying friends and family with that nonsense.



I mean, if it's something people actually like - Girl Scout cookies, that ballin' arse Sally Foster gift wrap - it's fine. But otherwise I agree.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34334 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:12 am to
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If you have a problem with our fundraisers, don't buy the dinners or buy the raffle. That simple, cheap arse

Maybe if you weren't such a broke dick you could pay for your own kid's travel ball instead of having fundraisers, cheap arse.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:17 am to
Give your friend twenty bucks and shut up...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41694 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:40 am to
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Girl Scout cookies


=/=

quote:

Sally Foster gift wrap
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12179 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:42 am to
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I have no problem when local teams have a bake sale to raise money. I'll buy those brownies and chocolate chip cookies anytime. Raffles, you know you're taking a chance on getting nothing. Straight up donations? Nope.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:44 am to
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In past I have contributed out of guilt


Beta.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41694 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:47 am to
How old is the kid, and is he/she any good?

I would never contribute to travel ball for kids 8 or younger, because the entire concept of travel ball for that age is insane.

If the kid is 9 or older...

1) 20 percent of the kids might actually be decent ballplayers. I won't straight up give money or do a stupid raffle, but if they have a jambalaya sale, bake sale, car wash, sell something of legit value, I'll go do it. At least I get lunch/snack/clean car out of it.

2) The other 80 percent do it either so mom can post crap on facebook/instagram, because they want someone to pay for their vacations, or because they don't want to play with black people / poor people in rec ball. No way, no how do I support these kids.

I live what I preach. My oldest daughter is very good at dance, but she did not join her dance school's competition team until she was 9 (despite the protests of daughter and wife, no pics of wife).

That competition dance stuff is expensive. They do two fundraisers a year. One is they sell those buy one get one pizza cards for Dominos for $10 each. They are good for an entire year and if you order 2 pizzas at a time, twice a year, it's a good deal. The other fundraiser is they sell these neat scented air freshners that hang from your rear view mirror, in the shape of a fleur-de-lis, they are $5 each and a lot of people buy them as presents for people.

Even with those two fundraisers, that might cover, at most, 10% of the cost of her doing competition dance.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12179 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:49 am to
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My personal theory is that parents who aspired but lacked the necessary skills, extroversion or popularity to be in a sport or cheer or dance are usually the ones who are the most, "into it," and the, "owners," of these ball teams, cheer teams, etc., prey upon these people as a means of allowing them to live vicariously through their children to make up for everything they perceive they weren't when they were younger.
Spot on.
Those that have actually achieved things in their life realize that all of this is supposed to be for fun, physical/social development, and (in the end) isn't very important.
Being on a travel ball team or an AAU team isn't magically going to turn your kid into some D1 stud.

There's kids on the LSU team that started playing football their junior year in HS. KC I think.
You either have the physical tools or you don't. Especially when it comes to making the bigs (which is really the only way a lot of this shite is worth it).

Now, I get that the more time you put into it, the better you'll get. Golf, baseball, basketball, etc.
But honestly, although you are spending time with your kid doing all of this shite... you're still missing out on a lot of the other great things in their lives by making them focus on your passions for your own gratification.
I'm sorry that your sister is an idiot. Maybe one day, she'll wake up and let you rekindle your relationship with your niece.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:50 am to
Screw em. I didn't ask for money for my kid's entertainment and won't give them money for theirs.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109175 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:54 am to
Are you so passive aggressive you don't know how to tell a friend you will not be donating to travel ball any longer?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41694 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:55 am to
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You either have the physical tools or you don't.


And it's a certain age before that becomes apparent.

If you play on a travel team with solid coaching (most travel ball teams are daddy ball) it might turn a slightly below average player into an average player.

Now, several of these teams are coached by high school coaches. That might help the kid get onto the high school team that is coached by that guy. But that's it.
Posted by LSUballs
P.A.I.G
Member since Feb 2008
40400 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:55 am to
You sound like a bitch.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:55 am to
Why can't kids just do car washes every weekend like the good ole days?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35695 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:55 am to
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Its bad enough they waste money on travel ball

If they as a family enjoy it, it is not wasted money.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:56 am to
Say what you will, there are several women in my life that mourn the end of Sally Foster. It's the only other fundraising product I know of (other than GS cookies) where people would seek out the fundraiser, not vice versa.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26348 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:57 am to
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So have a friend that does yearly fundraisers for travel ball. Usually its a jambalaya dinner, raffle, something like that.


At least they're having fundraisers and not panhandling at red lights like the travel basketball teams around here.

I wouldn't mind spending a $5-10 on a plate of food or some raffle tickets to help out, as long as the kids are participating in doing some of the fundraiser work and as long as its not something ridiculous, like $20/ticket raffles to win a Yeti.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:58 am to
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60182 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:00 am to
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I banged her in college before they started dating Shes fat now


Wtf bro first of all you don't even have kids so how could you know much of a struggle it is working turnarounds just so I can provide travel ball for my kid. And the lawncare business has been slow with all this rain

Second I see you're still jealous she married me and not you

Third she's hypothyroid which means she has heavy genetics and can't lose weight
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108748 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:00 am to
If you Can't afford to. Run with the big dogs don't beg for money.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13663 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:00 am to
It takes a village to raise a kid. You are part of the village. Just do what you can. For me, I would rather just give a little and skip out on the dinner commitment, etc.
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