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re: Fresh Water From Mississippi River Flooding Causing Issues With Wildlife
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:32 am to jimbeam
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:32 am to jimbeam
I was studying a little on dredging yesterday. It's going to take some new thinking to get rid of that sediment.
Those foreign companies look a lot more capable than ours. It's going to take a lot of power to dredge up all of the river bottom. Would be interesting to see if the power of the river itself could be harvested.
Also we need to remove the islands that have formed over the years that take up a lot of volume.
One of my ancestors moved to New Orleans in order to install rock jetties deep in the river in order to create turbulence, thus keeping a lot of the sediment in suspension on the way to the gulf.
Also you would think the big farms in the mid-west would try harder to keep their top soil instead of it washing down the drain.
One thing for sure we need someone who can think out side of the box....like maybe Donald Trump.
Those foreign companies look a lot more capable than ours. It's going to take a lot of power to dredge up all of the river bottom. Would be interesting to see if the power of the river itself could be harvested.
Also we need to remove the islands that have formed over the years that take up a lot of volume.
One of my ancestors moved to New Orleans in order to install rock jetties deep in the river in order to create turbulence, thus keeping a lot of the sediment in suspension on the way to the gulf.
Also you would think the big farms in the mid-west would try harder to keep their top soil instead of it washing down the drain.
One thing for sure we need someone who can think out side of the box....like maybe Donald Trump.
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:36 am to cajuncarguy
Or we could just do the smart thing and start preparing for the inevitable and control the switch.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:39 am to Tarps99
fricking crabbers and oystermen....
Got forbid it takes them more than 30min from the Reggio marina to get to their beds. If they went unchecked they would be trying to put oyster beds in chalmette. They bitch about everything.
Got forbid it takes them more than 30min from the Reggio marina to get to their beds. If they went unchecked they would be trying to put oyster beds in chalmette. They bitch about everything.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:51 am to Tarps99
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Mississippi coastal mayors are blaming spillway opening on too much fresh water in the Mississippi Sound causing dead dolphins, crab harvest being down, and no oyster production this year
well, let me say, with all due respect...frick Mississippi.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:53 am to Tarps99
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and the dolphins will return.
Not the dead ones.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 8:55 am to HebertFest08
Yep they are fishing oysters in places that wouldn’t be salt water without the current levee system containing the MS river. We also wouldn’t have the coastal erosion problems we do is the river was able to naturally do its thing.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:08 am to ksayetiger
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they don't like the spillway being opened then we can just blow several holes in the levee up river on the east side and flood North Mississippi
Actually Mississippi is higher so it would flood on the Louisiana/arkansas side
Actually Louisiana and Arkansas are on the West side so if you cut the East levees La. and Arkansas would be fine and North Miss. would get hammered.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:10 am to Bard
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It will be interesting to see how dredging the Mississippi an extra 5 feet deeper will impact these events.
They are only dredging 5 feet deeper in the mid-river channel, and only south of Laplace (and maybe even only further south than that).
I don't think it will make much of a difference.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:12 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:thats nothing. Would be a good move.
Strain says it would cost the state around $40 million over four years to bring home the nearly $200 million in federal match dollars the project requires. Once the project is completed, the federal government will pay to maintain the river at 50 feet each year.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:16 am to ksayetiger
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Actually Mississippi is higher so it would flood on the Louisiana/arkansas side
Only Natchez south is Ms higher
The MS Delta is lower or just as low as everything on the LA/Ark side
They have 200000 acres that have been flooded since Feb north of Vicksburg because the hills and the river levee make a bowl for the backwaters to sit in and the corps never installed the pumps to pump it back in the river
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:19 am to cajuncarguy
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Also you would think the big farms in the mid-west would try harder to keep their top soil instead of it washing down the drain.
No till and cover crops have increased greatly in the last decade so looks like they are trying
Except for the organic farms who till there ground like it’s 1930
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:22 am to Tarps99
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atural, if the Mississippi River were able to flow freely from its current channel and in its current high water state, it would be pushing fresh water EVERYWHERE.
To the oyster fishermen and crabbers, we have artificially created a saltwater water environment that goes all the way to Chalmette and even in Lake Ponchatrain.
Yeah, look, that saltwater situation might not be "natural" but it's been happening for 75 years. So everyone - the humans and the fish - are used to it.
If we were to crank up diversions, it would absolutely kill off a lot of wildlife, fish, oysters, etc, in the current fishing / oyster harvest areas.
In the long term, ecosystems would re-build themselves further out where the new salt/fresh line would be.
But that might take 10 years. It's not a matter of the oystermen just need to motor 30 more miles out right away... it's that for a while, there would be nothing, while the transition takes place.
If that's what we need to do to save our coast, then that's what we need to do... but we better make damn sure these diversions work. because as planned, they aren't exactly a good "replica" of a natural flood. It's more like a hose being turned off and on.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:23 am to ksayetiger
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Actually Mississippi is higher so it would flood on the Louisiana/arkansas side
Can’t wait to hear how water would go west through holes in the eastern levee
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:24 am to Tarps99
Survival of the fitness boys, nothing we can do about it.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:42 am to Ponchy Tiger
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If they don't like the spillway being opened then we can just blow several holes in the levee up river on the east side and flood North Mississippi
How about blowing a hole in the east levee a mile upriver from the LA state capital? It'll do billions of dollars of improvements in southeast LA.
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:42 am to Tarps99
build a dam that connects the miss river somewhere where it would be effectively be relieving over the flood stage type area, dredge a 100 yard wide 30 ft deep riverway for 1000 miles that drains into gulf or preferably atlantic near Jacksonville perhaps...open dam water pours in....miss river is relieved forever...we spend million upon millions of dollars building bridges and interstates, this venture would be easy and effectively end flooding of miss river for many states pretty much forever
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 9:45 am
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:45 am to sharkfhin
Where did you come up with that idea
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:48 am to jimbeam
its not rocket science....probably mentioned several times, i dont keep up just decided to read and said to myself...this is how u fix it, we spend billions on roads, and offshore drilling......why not dig a 100 yard wide by 30ft deep waterway leading to the Atlantic and break the dam....problem solved....
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 9:50 am
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:51 am to sharkfhin
quote:that would accept like 3% of the MS River flow
why not dig a 100 yard wide by 30ft deep
Posted on 5/29/19 at 9:51 am to sharkfhin
Where the hell are you getting the Atlantic?
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