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French govt says 1500 people died during its summer heat wave
Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:55 pm
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Record heatwaves in June and July caused the deaths of 1,435 people in France this year, according to the country's health minister.
Speaking on French radio, Agnès Buzyn said half of those who died were aged over 75.
But Ms Buzyn said, thanks to preventative measures, the rate was 10 times lower than the same period in 2003 when a deadly heatwave hit Europe.
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What’s with France and mass death during heat spells?
That’s a lot of people
Posted on 9/9/19 at 1:59 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
There is no air conditioning in much of France, so when a heatwave comes there is little that can be done to combat it.
There are similar issues in the UK in a lot of areas. That’s why the Study Abroad group I went there with, mainly consisting of students from the SE US, bought up every fan possible within about a 20 block radius of our dorms when we arrived.
There are similar issues in the UK in a lot of areas. That’s why the Study Abroad group I went there with, mainly consisting of students from the SE US, bought up every fan possible within about a 20 block radius of our dorms when we arrived.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Stubborn frickers insist A/C is not necessary.
Idiots.
Idiots.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Survival of the fittest!
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:02 pm to Trout Bandit
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Survival of the fittest!
Signed UT facilities mgt.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:09 pm to PenguinNinja
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Stubborn frickers insist A/C is not necessary.
Idiots.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:09 pm to MorbidTheClown
You literally have to have a Doctor's permission that you MUST have A/c to get one in most of Europe..but they are fighting global warming, ice ages and all other top concerns of the world
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It got up to 115 in one city in France this year. That's damn hot.
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The French Health Ministry said 974 of the people whose deaths were linked to the summer heat were older than 75
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
A couple of serious answers:
- They prefer a smaller footprint when building residences for various reasons (some economic like they don't have as much discretionary income to spend on mortgages and rent, some political as much of Europe leans way more left than we do on energy use, some cultural as they just prefer to spend income on other things, etc.) - a downstream effect of this is that more of the nation doesn't have lavish home appliances, A/C, and other value-added products and services, and when they do, it's pretty expensive to operate (though not as bad as Germany and Scandinavia)
- There just aren't nearly as many resources devoted to the well-being of the elderly whether that's healthcare or lavish retirement homes or what have you
Now, they are learning and there are some pretty simple and inexpensive things they can do to prevent a lot of cases which they do seem to be doing.
- They prefer a smaller footprint when building residences for various reasons (some economic like they don't have as much discretionary income to spend on mortgages and rent, some political as much of Europe leans way more left than we do on energy use, some cultural as they just prefer to spend income on other things, etc.) - a downstream effect of this is that more of the nation doesn't have lavish home appliances, A/C, and other value-added products and services, and when they do, it's pretty expensive to operate (though not as bad as Germany and Scandinavia)
- There just aren't nearly as many resources devoted to the well-being of the elderly whether that's healthcare or lavish retirement homes or what have you
Now, they are learning and there are some pretty simple and inexpensive things they can do to prevent a lot of cases which they do seem to be doing.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:15 pm to CarRamrod
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Stubborn frickers insist A/C is not necessary.
Idiots.
Electirc cooling was invented in 1902 do you think humans needed it for the 5000 years prior?
Well, for the prior 5,000 years, the people who are most vulnerable to this kind of thing typically either were already dead due to other ailments or were more likely to die during these types of events than they are today.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:19 pm to CarRamrod
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Electirc cooling was invented in 1902 do you think humans needed it for the 5000 years prior?
Average life expectancy in 1902
Men 49
Women 53
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
There needs to be common sense heat control.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:21 pm to TDsngumbo
start the conversation... but do it in French
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:22 pm to MorbidTheClown
The conversation should be in French and we should be careful as to not use offensive terminology.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:That's a whole lot of French fried.....
French govt says 1500 people died during its summer heat wave
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I’m suspicious of that figure.
To what degree is it just older people who died during a heatwave?
How do you separate the two?
To what degree is it just older people who died during a heatwave?
How do you separate the two?
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What’s with France and mass death during heat spells?
Lack of AC is big.
The other isn't just the very high maximum temperatures but the very high low temperatures. When lows don't dip below 80, we get worried even here in the SE. Too warm at night, people don't sleep well, and that tends toward more heat related illnesses. Gets worse and worse for every additional day with very high minimum temperatures.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:43 pm to secfballfan
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You literally have to have a Doctor's permission that you MUST have A/c to get one in most of Europe..but they are fighting global warming, ice ages and all other top concerns of the world
Link, por favor
Posted on 9/9/19 at 2:46 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Meh, fairly small number considering their population.
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