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re: Fred's Bar lawsuit over patron fight death moves forward...

Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:18 am to
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9331 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:18 am to
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ETA: I mean, I don't like it, but it's pretty well established law and precedent that a bar has to monitor it's customers and make some determination of drunkeness level and act accordingly to stop it.


You must not have read the whole article. Fred's attorney notes that it's not the law. Then the plantiff atorney basically concedes that and changes the argument:

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Hayden Presley, an attorney for Fred's Bar, told Moore that state courts have made it clear in the past that overserving alcohol is not a sufficient enough act to sue a bar for negligence.

“It is the person that is consuming the alcohol that is in the best position to stop these things from happening, not the vendor,” the Lafayette attorney said.
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Danielle Mackie, one of the Metairie attorneys representing the plaintiff, countered that the combatants were clearly intoxicated when Fred’s security booted them after the first altercation inside the bar. Mackie told the judge they staggered outside, where the fatal brawl ensued.

“This case is not about a bartender serving too much alcohol,” she said. “It’s about serving (notice) upon the dangerous conditions by Fred’s Bar’s staff. Conditions that led to a volatile situation and ended deadly.”
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16047 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:22 am to
Fred’s has insurance so it’s another pocket from which to dive into for more money.

Plaintiff/personal injury attorneys doing what they do



This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 1:13 pm
Posted by LSUnatick
South of Lafourche
Member since Jul 2008
1622 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:36 am to
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SlidellCajun
quote:

And fwiw, there is no need to kill someone when they take a swing at you


Educate yourself before saying dumb shite.
Posted by freshtigerbait
Somewhere
Member since Oct 2023
583 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:37 am to
This.

Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1731 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:38 am to
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Report to the cops on duty and let the cops intervene. Problem solved.


and if the vaunted BRPD isn't standing right there, then what?


not to mention that the patrons will bitch about harassment or profiling by the cops as "theyaintdoinnuffin".
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2829 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:39 am to
Only thing I’ll say about Fred’s is they have some absolute scumbags working for them. The only requirement for working there is to be the biggest douche imaginable.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41497 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:43 am to
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quote: you’ve got a duty.

For how long?


Depends on how rich you are/how large your insurance policy is. Are you broke with no possibility of paying any significant money? You’re immediately absolved.

Are you a multimillionaire business like Fred’s with a sizable insurance policy (most likely)? Until their heads are placed safely on their pillows at their separate, respective homes.
This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 10:44 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:46 am to
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“This case is not about a bartender serving too much alcohol,” she said. “It’s about serving (notice) upon the dangerous conditions by Fred’s Bar’s staff. Conditions that led to a volatile situation and ended deadly.”


If the LASC agrees that moving 2 people fighting inside the bar, to outside the bar, is negligent, then I wonder if any insurer will offer policies to bars moving forward and/or how expensive those policies will become.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46447 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:47 am to
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“These patrons were removed from Fred’s Bar and Grill already knowing that they were aggressive with one another,” he said. “And to throw them out together without any oversight, without any supervision, I believe that is a cause of action.”


While tragic, this isn’t the case at all. Alcohol and dumbassery is the culprit
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112707 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:48 am to
Writs to the First Circuit.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27904 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:56 am to
Matthew Marsiglia, a 21-year-old LSU student

Has Shallow Pockets


FRED's has Insurance and Deep Pockets



Only real answer, Lawyers going after the only source of money
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7448 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:05 am to
They should have removed them from the entire property. If it happens in the street then oh well.
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
1731 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:13 am to
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The only requirement for working there is to be the biggest douche imaginable.


that may be true, but I'd imagine working at Freds on a busy night would bring out the douchebag in anyone.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39940 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:16 am to
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It’s about serving (notice) upon the dangerous conditions by Fred’s Bar’s staff. Conditions that led to a volatile situation and ended deadly


The dude was 26. Should be able to handle yourself in a bar by then

Just a horseshite lawsuit
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
1528 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:19 am to
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filed the lawsuit against Fred’s Bar and Grill in March on behalf of her deceased boyfriend’s two sons.
That is a really bizarre claim of standing. I wonder if those boys would ever see a dime IF she happens to squeeze money out of this weak claim.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466921 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:23 am to
I don't see how this moves forward.

Was this the Exception of NCOA? No way they're at MSJ this early, right?
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15970 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:24 am to
The language the judge used indicated NOCA.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5082 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:36 am to
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That is a really bizarre claim of standing. I wonder if those boys would ever see a dime IF she happens to squeeze money out of this weak claim.


Nothing unusual about this. He is dead so any legal claims belong to his estate. He had children so they are automatically his estate under the law. The mother would file a claim on their behalf as they are minors and any money awarded would go into a trust managed by someone appointed by the court.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:38 am to
Not having followed this at all, but what’s the status of the Marsiglia kid’s trial?

I was shocked that he was indicted at all given the facts I’ve read. Is he likely to be convicted?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13549 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:43 am to
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“These patrons were removed from Fred’s Bar and Grill already knowing that they were aggressive with one another,” he said. “And to throw them out together without any oversight, without any supervision, I believe that is a cause of action.” According to an arrest report, Repath took a swing at Matthew Marsiglia, a 21-year-old LSU student involved in the fracas. Marsiglia ducked the punch and shoved Repath, whose head hit the pavement when he fell to the ground.


That family isn’t owed one single cent


It’s absolutely insane that they’re trying to get money out of this situation. I HATE this about our society
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