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Ford fixed pricing spinoff thread, are we losing the skill set to barter?
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:09 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:09 am
FORD's fixed pricing will mean the highest price, not lowest for the consumer (see the CarMax model). Are we creating a generation that does not know how to haggle anymore?
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Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:11 am to Cheese Grits
You don't have any power when you finance everything 84 months
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:13 am to Cheese Grits
Uh, “bartering” =/= negotiating or haggling.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:13 am to Cheese Grits
Most people negotiate from a position of weakness anyway due to their extreme ignorance of finances. This would “help” those people but would likely hurt the savvy buyer
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 7:15 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:14 am to Cheese Grits
A lot of people can’t negotiate. That was true 20 years ago as it is today.
The dealership will likely frick you no matter what, you’re just negotiating whether or not you get a reach around out of the deal.
The dealership will likely frick you no matter what, you’re just negotiating whether or not you get a reach around out of the deal.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:14 am to Cheese Grits
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FORD's fixed pricing will mean the highest price, not lowest for the consumer (see the CarMax model)
Will it though?
They are taking the middle men out so all the dealer up charge will be gone
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:16 am to Cheese Grits
Imma build my own truck and service my own damn truck and do it my own damn way. That’s cutting the middle man out.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:17 am to Adam Banks
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Will it though?
They are taking the middle men out so all the dealer up charge will be gone
no it wont. lmao. ford is gonna take it along with paying pennies on the dollar for some 3rd worlder to process all of the paperwork. so every community with a dealership will lose jobs and the only one that will come out ahead in the whole deal is ford.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:21 am to Cheese Grits
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does not know how to haggle anymore?
Haggling is such a déclassé activity.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:22 am to Cheese Grits
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barter
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:22 am to SloaneRanger
I am old and I grew up in a world of horse trading that evolved into auto trading. Bartering / negotiating / haggling are all part of the same thing. Not sure why you feel they are not.
I am a big fan of Game Theory and finding a value where buyer and seller both come away feeling good to facilitate doing it over and over for a long period of time. If folks believe in true "Free Markets" they negotiating VS fixed should always be preferred.
I am a big fan of Game Theory and finding a value where buyer and seller both come away feeling good to facilitate doing it over and over for a long period of time. If folks believe in true "Free Markets" they negotiating VS fixed should always be preferred.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:22 am to Cheese Grits
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are we losing the skill set to barter?
4 words:
Face
Book
Market
Place
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:23 am to Adam Banks
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They are taking the middle men out so all the dealer up charge will be gone
Modern business means passing saving up the food chain, not downstream to the consumer.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:26 am to Cheese Grits
Your ability to negotiate is based on supply, demand, and. scarcity of resources. If you want the only truck on the lot, good luck.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 7:27 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:28 am to Cheese Grits
Does Tesla allow haggling? I don't think they do. That is the model the auto world will settle on.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:28 am to Cheese Grits
Move to India if you want to barter.
I for one wish this model would’ve changed years ago. Everything is preorder now anyways. The last thing I want to do is deal with some slicked up 20 year old drop out trying to tell me something I don’t already know. Then go talk to his drop out sales manager who thinks he’s Tony Montana.
I for one wish this model would’ve changed years ago. Everything is preorder now anyways. The last thing I want to do is deal with some slicked up 20 year old drop out trying to tell me something I don’t already know. Then go talk to his drop out sales manager who thinks he’s Tony Montana.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 7:36 am
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:38 am to Adam Banks
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They are taking the middle men out so all the dealer up charge will be gone
They will add on window tint, theft system, paint protection to every car. They will then hit you in the finance room with gap/credit insurance/extended warranty/maint plan..same suckers will buy it all
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:39 am to SloaneRanger
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Uh, “bartering” =/= negotiating or haggling.
The vast majority of all deals involve a trade in so it is bartering, boom.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:42 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Does Tesla allow haggling? I don't think they do. That is the model the auto world will settle on.
Tesla does not
Purchase is done online and vehicle arrives at your home within days depending on your location
When they started this, the car world held its breath in hopes that it would fail but it hasn’t and it’s not likely to fail. It’s very popular.
I’ve spoken to some dealers and literally despise Tesla for what they’ve done to the car market
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:43 am to Cheese Grits
Ford sticker price means spit.
I bought a new F150 STX recently, the hidden fees and bullshite were unreal. They are adding an inventory tax on all sales, they tried to add $2,500 to mine with no explanation until I asked what the F it was.
I nearly walked out but needed a truck.
I bought a new F150 STX recently, the hidden fees and bullshite were unreal. They are adding an inventory tax on all sales, they tried to add $2,500 to mine with no explanation until I asked what the F it was.
I nearly walked out but needed a truck.
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