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re: Forbes Editorial: America Produces The Most Oil. So Why Are Gas Prices Surging?

Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:59 am to
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:59 am to
There are plenty of Jones Act tankers out there…they just have ridiculous day rates.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:17 am to
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Oil companies are fricking us


How so? Please explain in detail.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:30 am to
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Thanks to Obama for removing the crude oil export ban.


I would counter, though, and opine that has the export ban not been lifted, the shale revolution doesn’t explode the way it has to where we are now producing more oil than anyone else, a record 13.8 Million barrels a day in September and October 2025. As a result, we’d have less overall oil being produced at home right now, and thereby more exposed to OPEC+’s swings, and there currently situation of oil choked off in the strait. In fact, that “20%” of the world’s oil being at risk would maybe instead account for something like 30% of the world’s oil.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:38 am to
We are still exposed to the swings as were shown in 2022 and now.

Two of the largest swings we have seen in history have been experienced after the ban was lifted.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:40 am to
America does not market its oil products because it does not make products.

Companies with assets, liabilities and owners equity do…in a profit model.

This ain’t hard!

If between the lines, is the real question ‘why are oil companies making a profit?’

See above. Same.

And in US, IOCs make higher return on assets / investment than in other parts of the world. Why? Capitalism and can enjoy upside of revenue opportunities (higher prices). Whereas, in other countries there are more cost-sharing / revenue limits or even price controls.

America drives oil company profits.

The incentives are built-in…exec big bonuses who are competing with one another for promotion and higher profit sharing incentives, shareholder (dividends) including many law makers and lobbies, pension funds, debtors et al.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 9:52 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:48 am to
Do you think we are more exposed, though? Or has it all just come out in a wash?

We were exposed to a high ramp up in gasoline prices in 2008, national average topping $4/gallon for the first time ever. Could much higher domestic production have helped lessen that?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89795 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:53 am to
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People like easy answers, such as “corporate greed.” That is emotionally satisfying, but it doesn’t tell the full story.


So Biden lied to us?


Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:54 am to
I think we have been bolder to sanction other oil from other countries in order to force a market for American crude.

American oil producers have no commitment tl the US to keep domestic oil prices lower. So in theory we have insulation against the swings. In practice we are just at the mercy of world markets.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 10:23 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14604 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:56 am to
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greed fueled by selfishness
....nothing changed about the cost for what was already refined, transported, and taxed upon

The cost next week ...but... not the overnight jump at the pump.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29227 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:56 am to
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So Biden lied to us?


No sir. A U.S. President would never lie to the American people
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29227 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 5:37 pm to
Yesterday, when I went to my neighborhood Buc-ees to fill up, it was $3.59/gal, and $3.29/gal with a car wash purchase.

Just drove by: $3.45/gal and $3.15/gal with the car wash.

Prices already dropping?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42288 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 5:44 pm to
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Forbes Editorial: America Produces The Most Oil. So Why Are Gas Prices Surging?


Because it’s a global commodity and those retards in Europe have completely outsourced their fuel supply to us and the ME.

Eta
Also this:

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Drivers saw increases of roughly 50 cents per gallon almost overnight following the outbreak of hostilities with Iran


Is price gouging. There is no way that the gasoline in the tank under the station was bought at a $0.50/gal higher price than the day before. I fricking hate when gas stations preemptively raise prices like this.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30499 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 5:48 pm to
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To subsidize the counties where the fuel would be extremely high per gallon.

Again the USA helping everyone


Care to explain that?


I also hate the use of energy independence vis-a-vis the US since we are a long way away from that. It is often confused or conflated with being a net BTU exporter which is not remotely the same thing in our case.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39639 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 5:53 pm to
It's almost as if no one took a 2000 level Econ course.
This post was edited on 3/24/26 at 5:54 pm
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2559 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 6:24 pm to
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To subsidize the counties where the fuel would be extremely high per gallon. Again the USA helping everyone


Private oil companies (non-government owned) are not subsidizing counties much less countries. They are taking oil from the ground and selling it to the highest bidder because they owe it to their shareholders. If buyers overseas are willing to pay more then that who they will sell to until their is no longer an arbitrage in the market.

Additionally, we may be a net exporter of oil but it doesn't mean we are isolated from the global market and pricing since most of our refineries are designed handle sour crude which typically is imported.

The government influence on the market is typically restricted to influencing supply and demand by releasing reserves from the SPR and allowing oil companies the export oil which they started this policy over the past decade.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29227 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 6:52 pm to
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I also hate the use of energy independence vis-a-vis the US since we are a long way away from that. It is often confused or conflated with being a net BTU exporter which is not remotely the same thing in our case.


Agree. The “energy independence” term has been a big political campaign talking point over the past 6 years or so, though.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30499 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:10 pm to
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Agree. The “energy independence” term has been a big political campaign talking point over the past 6 years or so, though.


I wasn't singling out the article; it has been driving me crazy for almost 10 years now. Most people seem not to understand why we import over 6 million b/d of crude while at the same time exporting about 3.5 million b/d, which, without a few facts, seems stupid.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29227 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:45 pm to
A large number of voters unfortunately will blindly trust whatever their favorite politician(s) say without looking into the facts.

As a former boss of mine always liked to say, “The devil’s in the details”.
Posted by PGAOLDBAWNevahBroke
Member since Oct 2025
432 posts
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:22 pm to
The US isnt truly energy independent. We consume more crude than we pump DOMESTICALLY. You’d have to include the other areas US companies produce in. We still import over 6mm bod for refining etc.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
5199 posts
Posted on 3/25/26 at 1:57 am to
It's not really complicated from an economic standpoint.

Oil is oil, it doesn't matter where it's produced. It's a resource that has a value via supply and demand. Oil is a global market and it's all fungible really.

Oil produced here in the US is not going to be sold in the US cheaply when there are foreign markets bidding on it for much higher prices.
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