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re: Forbes - CEOs Will Be Clamping Down On Employees
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:22 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:22 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
WFH has opened up a whole new world in cyber security. Hackers typically didn’t give a shite about home networks. Too much work with hardly any returns. However, with WFH and people logging into business networks remotely, those Samsung smart TVs that never get patched are looking pretty sweet to international criminals.
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:25 pm to BHS78
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OMG that will cut into their gaming time
I had a remote employee who I swear would rush everything I told him to do, put the metaphorical ball in someone else's court, and then go take bong hits and play video games.
He didn't last long. FWIW, he was originally on-site, but then muh pandemic happened right when he started and he latched onto it big time (major red flag caring about that shite).
There are definitely people who can't make WFH work. My employer was always pretty good about firing them expeditiously.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:25 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:It is all dependent on type of industry and other things, but there most certainly is truth to that statement.
I recall seeing a lot of people here saying "if WFH isn't working, your company is poorly managed". Hmmm.
quote:As with the above, in some cases, it's because bosses are hiring the wrong people.
JPMorgan’s CEO told an audience in Davos that remote work “doesn’t work” for bosses.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:30 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:I did it last May, and it's worked out fine.
What blows mymind is the people who are getting NEW jobs that are 100% remote.
How tf does a person get up to speed quickly and efficiently in that environment.
I can understand the people who have been doing the same 5 tasks for tye past 10 years being able to do those same 5 tasks remotely, but how do you start at a new place, with different ways of doing things while never meeting or sitting down with them face to face when you're first starting. Crazy to me.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:31 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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How tf does a person get up to speed quickly and efficiently in that environment.
Because the majority of modern-day jobs in corporate America are relatively meaningless administrative jobs.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:32 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I recall seeing a lot of people here saying "if WFH isn't working, your company is poorly managed". Hmmm.
I said it from the standpoint of IT positions only....I still stand by that.
My company has approved 100% remote for IT going forward.
Now other areas of business I can certainly get what they are saying.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:34 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I really wonder about the makeup of people who insist on remote only work and bash in-person as meaningless. Have they never seen the benefits of being in the same room as someone and talking through a problem which leads to more ideas and solutions? It's like we're doing everything to just become mindless drones. I totally agree one size fits all, or 100% one way versus the other is likely not the solution, but writing off in-person is a mistake.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:35 pm to LSUminati
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Have they never seen the benefits of being in the same room as someone and talking through a problem which leads to more ideas and solutions?
How much more valuable is the person that can do this exact same thing (maybe better) over Webex???
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:35 pm to jdd48
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I can see both sides. I personally get just as much done from home.
I see way too many people in the office that are lazy and don't do much work...I can't imagine what they would do at home
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:36 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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you really think this is why the CEOs of firms such as Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are bringing people back into the office? seriously?
I think their productivity levels have dropped and instead of placing the blame on historic levels of turnover and an increased priority of hiring candidates to meet quotas rather than based on pure qualifications they are blaming the drop on work from home.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:36 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Happy to work for a company that doesn't even have an office.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:37 pm to LSU316
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How much more valuable is the person that can do this exact same thing (maybe better) over Webex???
Hard to quantify but it's a totally different energy
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:37 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I think more jobs are able to WFH in today’s world but there is also a large segment that need to work in office or they will not bring as much value as someone WFH.
Like I’m leading our Finance department and can get the bare minimum done at home but our other department heads prefer me to be in office to help with different things. I bring more value being present.
Like I’m leading our Finance department and can get the bare minimum done at home but our other department heads prefer me to be in office to help with different things. I bring more value being present.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:38 pm to fallguy_1978
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Sometimes I go in just because I'm tired of being at home
There are WFH people in my building because they have too many distractions at home. They rent the office themselves.
$150-250/month with utilities/internet included.
Considering their house costs 1/3, or less, than in the city the math works out very well.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:38 pm to LSUminati
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I really wonder about the makeup of people who insist on remote only work and bash in-person as meaningless. Have they never seen the benefits of being in the same room as someone and talking through a problem which leads to more ideas and solutions? It's like we're doing everything to just become mindless drones.
Most work in corporate America is meaningless.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:39 pm to LSUminati
The 100% WFH people are a bit odd, except for outside sales folks that have been doing it for years. I’m talking mainly of the younger folks that insist on it, or have developed a sense of entitlement to it. I enjoy having the option to WFH when I need to, but I primarily come into the office everyday because I value the human interaction I get here. My commute is only 5-10 minutes though, so that helps. I’d probably feel differently if I had a one hour commute.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:39 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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What blows mymind is the people who are getting NEW jobs that are 100% remote.
How tf does a person get up to speed quickly and efficiently in that environment.
Started new role early December. Within 4 weeks I had my team executing better than any other team at the company.
Know your tools, create your process.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:40 pm to TomJoadGhost
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The 100% WFH people are a bit odd, except for outside sales folks that have been doing it for years. I’m talking mainly of the younger folks that insist on it, or have developed a sense of entitlement to it. I enjoy having the option to WFH when I need to, but I primarily come into the office everyday because I value the human interaction I get here.
I find people who need "human interaction" in their jobs to be odd. I have my own friends and family. I don't need to hear about Ted in Accounting's weekend to feel like I've gotten social stimulation.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:41 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Most work in corporate America is meaningless.
Maybe, and for most people 90% of their work can be done between them and their computer, but you have to facilitate that 10% of the time where you pop into someone's office or vice versa.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:43 pm to jdd48
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I can see both sides. I personally get just as much done from home. However, there is something lost IMO when the team works mostly from home and never meets face to face.
I can also see both sides. When I had a team that I really enjoyed being around, I didn't mind coming into the office five days away. When I have had teams where I didn't like and/or have common interests with the rest of my team, I much preferred work-from-home.
Probably the best solution for jobs that can work-from-home is a hybrid model where you're in the office 2-3 days a week. You still get that team atmosphere, but get some flexibility.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 2:45 pm
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