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re: Forbes - CEOs Will Be Clamping Down On Employees

Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:45 pm to
I can work both ways and I find benefits from both. In an office with my coworkers, I can get a better sense of their work, mood, and use that to provide help when I can see something is frustrating them and vice versa. If something is giving me trouble, I could turn my chair around and get some guidance in seconds.

At home, the flexibility is hard to let go of. I can get so much more done personally and even at times with work because if your setup is right, there are fewer distractions.

I’m technically in IT.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47479 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:46 pm to
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No amount of them being pissed that they are on the hook for paying for massive amounts of office space and buildings they don't need to function as companies or investment properties that are no longer being rented


A lot of it needs to be converted to housing… lack of supply is a crisis in those big cities
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
1982 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:47 pm to
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At home, the flexibility is hard to let go of. I can get so much more done personally and even at times with work because if your setup is right, there are fewer distractions.



Oh yeah...while being in the office is great if you need a quick question answered, it's great when working from home to have no forced conversations with my coworkers.

There's only so much I can hear about a coworker's child or pet. I usually just don't care.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66700 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:48 pm to
this really doesn't come as a surprise to anyone who works in Corporate IT. or shouldn't.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48361 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:48 pm to
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There are WFH people in my building because they have too many distractions at home.

My home office is nicer than my work office and I'm home alone all day other than the dog. I just get a little stir crazy sometimes being at home so much.

A lot of my coworkers have long commutes though and they love it which I completely understand.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:50 pm to
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I just get a little stir crazy sometimes being at home so much.
I was the same way. When Covid first hit, I would find random excuses to get outside. My wife was also very understanding and didn’t complain when I would leave on weekday afternoons just to get away. It took some real adjustments on both ends.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted by JinFL
Duuuval
Member since Oct 2004
3935 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:51 pm to
Work for a large company, we do 2 days in the office/3 at home. Works out really well. I don't mind coming in and if we really needed a come in the office day off, they say pretty much go for it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:51 pm to
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why would an employer gaf about an employee having a long commute and/or not liking the city they work in?
You're not wrong but it is funny to hear the employer not gaf about the employee but wanting employees in the office to build "culture"
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3898 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:52 pm to
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What blows mymind is the people who are getting NEW jobs that are 100% remote.

How tf does a person get up to speed quickly and efficiently in that environment.

I can understand the people who have been doing the same 5 tasks for tye past 10 years being able to do those same 5 tasks remotely, but how do you start at a new place, with different ways of doing things while never meeting or sitting down with them face to face when you're first starting. Crazy to me.


I am one of those folks. Started a 100% WFH position in May 2022.

We as a group (about 35) met in Dallas for 2 weeks of training. After that, we returned home for another 1-2 weeks for virtual training. Then we were turned loose on our own. My team of 10 meets via Teams every morning for 15 minutes to go over yesterday and forecast for today.

The second and subsequent groups of hires for my role got only 1 week of in person training and then virtual training. Consequently, about 50% of them have already left. We've lost about 25%.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
3276 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:53 pm to
I enjoy being the Todd Packer of my division, but my soul needs to take a dump in my boss’s office every so often.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:54 pm to
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A lot of my coworkers have long commutes


did they not know where the job was located when they took the position?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:54 pm to
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1. As a Manager, it's a frickin almost impossible situation to keep people accountable if you don't have an absolute great team in place.

I don't get it. How do you keep people accountable if they're in the office? Whatever the answer to that question is, that's the answer to how you keep them accountable when they WFH.

They have x amount of work to be done, are they doing it? It's simplified, but that's what it boils down to, and I don't see where an employee works being an issue to holding them accountable for their daily responsibilities.
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I can't account for 20 digital workers besides seeing a green dot on Teams. Heck, they give out phones with Teams on them that make you seem present and available.
Are they salaried? Hourly and have some sort of productivity?

Either way, you should know if they're getting their job done or not. As for the Teams thing, if they're not responding to you or someone else in a timely fashion, that's a problem that should be dealt with. Again, this should be pretty easy stuff.
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2. I think remote work limits your ability to network and really advocate for yourself within a large organization. You become a true number. Just my opinion.

There can definitely be some truth to this in certain situations.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11794 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:56 pm to
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True, but they the boss isn’t selecting who gets laid off. Your point of view leaves it up to the employee to get ‘laid off’ or not. That strategy will fail.


if a company wants to down size say 10% of their work force of say 10000 employees (cut 1000), and the cut work from home and 100 quit, that is 100 they dont need to give a severance package say 10 weeks and unemployment after that 10 weeks if they dont go back to work on 100 employees adds up.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48841 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:56 pm to
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A lot of my coworkers have long commutes though and they love it which I completely understand.



I should mention that these are not generally jobs that they used to commute for. These are really remote workers. Like out of state.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:56 pm to
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Started new role early December. Within 4 weeks I had my team executing better than any other team at the company.


I mean, this in itself doesn't tell us anything. Your team could suck balls and could 2x their productivity if they were in the same building and your statement could still be true.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:57 pm to
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These are really remote workers. Like out of state.



head of the hospital where my daughter works in Ft. Worth lives in the Philippines, they just got a company directive, no more wfh!!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:58 pm to
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I see way too many people in the office that are lazy and don't do much work...I can't imagine what they would do at home

They'd do the same little amount of work. And the go getters who get shite done in the office would get shite done at home.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:59 pm to
I’ve been WFH for 6 years.
I would probably change careers/semi retire before driving in Nashville traffic on a daily basis again.
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
1982 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:59 pm to
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I was the same way. When Covid first hit, I would find random excuses to get outside


I think that's actually one of the benefits of working from home. If I was five days a week in the office, I would be largely sitting idle in my window-less office. With work from home, if I don't have anything to do, I can go outside whenever I want to get some fresh air.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259917 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Employees took the first round with the great resignation, but the pendulum is swinging back with an economic downturn



Great Resingers will be bitching about not working soon enough.
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