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re: For you youngsters; The truth about owning a home

Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12603 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:18 pm to
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Do you pay for termite treatment, maid service, carpet cleaning, driveway pressure washing, lawn service or grass cutting?


No. Only pest control.

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Also, count any deductibles ($500-$1,000) from any insurance claims, taking large trees down, etc. This does not even include breakdowns of water heaters, HVAC, etc. And, if you do it yourself, don't you have to count the cost of buying your own pressure washer, riding mower, chainsaws, paint, etc. It easily adds up.


Those are all one time payments especially the equipment.

Unless you’re doing renovations or have an avalanche of frick ups, you should not be spending over $5K/year on upkeep.

That’s ridiculous.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
19212 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Yeah, I’ve got a rental property that I haven’t laid eyes on in 16 years and have barely spent 5k in upkeep in all of that time

You sound like a shitty landlord
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
4653 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:29 pm to

Home equity aside:

Houses lead to wives, kids, keeping up with the Joneses, piles of stupid box store junk and empty bank accounts.

Apartments lead to minimalist bachelor pads, carefree Tinder sex, beer on the fridge, vacation planners, lots of sports and action movies on TV and piles of disposable income.

You don't just rent the apartment, you rent the lifestyle...
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4413 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 3:44 pm to
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That's the difference... after 30 yrs of paying a mortgage you own a home.


As long as you can pay your property tax. Not so much as issue in Louisiana, but play Zillow-stalker on places like Los Angeles.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12030 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:03 pm to
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You’ve owned your house for 20+ years and still have a mortgage? Yea don’t give anyone advice, you’re in no position to do so.


I’ve had very smart financial guys tell me not to pay yiur house off early if you have a low interest rate. You are giving money away if you do. So why you shitting on this guy?
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
25456 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:06 pm to
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you should expect to drop another $5K/yr average on upkeep & maintenance.


Hell that is what I pay in property taxes each year. $4000 in insurance too. I don't have $5000 in expenses for the upkeep that is for sure.
This post was edited on 12/20/22 at 4:08 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130333 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:11 pm to
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Besides your mortgage & escrow, you should expect to drop another $5K/yr average on upkeep & maintenance


You left out taxes
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83324 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:11 pm to
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You sound like a shitty landlord



just the opposite, I hire a property manager to address any needs of the tenants, place has never been empty since I started renting it, the only time it was empty was to do some deep cleaning and updating, rents for $2500/mo., don't owe a penny on it, and have several more units in the same development, I'm a great landlord, I've just discovered it's better for all concerned to have a go between me and the tenants
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9794 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 4:32 pm to
What maintenance are you doing year over year for 20 years that costs $5k a year? Appliances go out every 5-10 years. Only one I can think of is the air conditioner that costs more than $5k.

We've lived in our house for 30 years.
Painting
A few window's vacuum failed
Broken a few window's
Re-do kitchen
Yard maintenance
Updated bathroom fixtures and tub and countertops
Paint inside several times
Replaced carpet in bedrooms 3 times
3 lawn mowers
3 weed eaters
Flower bed maintenance
Fence install and repair
Roof
Tree removal
2 water heaters
The termite damage repair was 30,000 but I had a termite contract, thank God.

Need I go on???

It never ends
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
7037 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 5:19 pm to
What the frick are you doing that is $5K a year in maintenance and upkeep?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 5:59 pm to
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Only one I can think of is the air conditioner that costs more than $5k.
Yep

13 years of home ownership here, and replacing the AC once was the only time I ever came anywhere near $5k for maintenance/upkeep in a given year.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:12 pm to
Ownership triggers an appreciation far greater than leasing ever can. It is yours! Further, peace of mind of having control of the roof over your head and no dependencies of a landlord booting you out.

I'll stop there. I disagree with your over generalized financial math premise, too.

Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17688 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:16 pm to
First home was a condo that didn't flood in 2016, made $30K after $13K in big cosmetic upgrades and a new A/C upstairs and outside. Bought a brand new Florida home that didn't flood during Irma and suffered little damage from Ian, which wiped out a lot close to us. (1 mile, or less, away) We did have to replace the spa pump due to Ian, a one time charge of $2,500. Otherwise, just $120/month for lawn maintenance. New homes are obviously less maintenance for the first 5 years, assuming nothing catastrophic
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9002 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:17 pm to
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You left out taxes


Escrow = property taxes + insurance (homeowners' + flood)
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16602 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:03 pm to
Can you provide the toll free number to the Eli Goldfinger Slum Corporation?
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
53518 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:40 pm to
Today my husband discovered we have a leaking pipe under the bathroom tub. Tomorrow a plumber will come and fix it correctly the first time (in the crawlspace behind the finished basement area) while we are upstairs working.I would rather make a little extra commission to pay for it than try to save by fixing it ourselves. We don't DIY stuff like that because we are not professionals.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
53518 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 7:49 pm to
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so less than $1k plus your time for lawn care.
we pay slightly less than $2k to watch someone else do it
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46090 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 10:34 pm to
10-20k easy for me, and over it
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
3399 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 12:05 am to
In 9 years, I have spent $11k total on necessary repairs/replacements. A lower A/C unit last year and the exterior of the house painted last year as well. My house was built in 2007 so I am at about $1,200 a year when averaged out.

Now, I have spent about $80k on upgrades and improvements. But none of them were absolutely necessary. A 40,000 gallon pool, 450 SF Timber Tech Deck (built myself), finished basement (built myself), sodded and landscaping my 1/2 acre backyard (installed myself) and hard wood floored the upper level (installed myself.) None of these projects were necessary, just upgrades. I don’t see how a home could need $5k a year in the type of repairs needed to be moderately livable.

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24791 posts
Posted on 12/21/22 at 6:19 am to
Over a 30 year timeframe, damn near everything in your home will need replacing or “upgrading” because it’s 30 years old and looks it.

Siding/roof/insulation/ac/various parts of plumbing/electrical, gutters, all appliances, countertops, cabinets, flooring, light fixtures..some of it numerous times. Add in all the costs of lawn equipment, etc and spending 150k over 30 years doesn’t sound like it’s that out of line.

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