re: For those that thought divorce would be awesome..

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Financially ruined me. If I could go back, I would have solved those problems.

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You mean you would have killed her, right?

That's how I took it.

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I've been divorced twice. Life was rough for a few years after divorce #1 because of finances. However, I started slaying poon and then met #2. We were only married a year and a half. Got divorced and then played the field and had a lot of fun, which led me to #3. I couldn't be happier or more satisfied than I am with my life and situation.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!
I hope #4 makes you happy on a whole different level.

And to OP:
How about start by putting your wife first, not your kids. You take care of that woman and that relationship, and literally everything else takes care of itself.

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The grass is not greener here. There will be some who will tell you otherwise but they are likely just trying to justify their shitty situation.

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Currently on marriage #2 and I am happier now than I have ever been in my entire life. I am a daily part of my kids lives even if I only have them 50% of the month. I have a strong relationship with my children as does my wife whom the kids adore.

Sure it takes effort, sure it sucked for the first year or so but things are immensley better than they were during marriage #1

I agree OP needs to make sincere efforts to fix his marriage. His situation is different than mine and appears that more effort on his part could help things.

but to tell someone to suck it up and be miserable for 18 years because it's whats best for the kids is wrong. Divorce is not some cliff dive into a lonely pit of hell.

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They taught you that at the Catholic High School you went to? Obviously not

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HELL no... That was where the Barbe High girls came into play

Good shite from some pros

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Dude. That is every mid 30s with kids marriage. Why would you want another women and start the process over again? Don't put your kids in a bind. Start hunting or something and bring your kids. That will give your wife a break, and great one on one time with your babies.

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Here's my advice from a guy who's been married for 24 years and soon to be an empty nester. Women are generally unhappy most of the time. They are rarely happy with their husband, kids, career and home. They hate work. It pisses them off and they always think they do more than you. You have kids who need their father. If you're okay with some other guy raising them, walk away. If you're not then, you had better find a way to deal with this. Here's my advice 1. Hire a housekeeper 2. Cook or go out more often 3. Use babysitting more often to go out on dates. 4. Buy her shite that pampers her. Spas and stuff like that. 5. Quit having kids. They're a pain in the arse. 6. Go on vacation more often. 7. Arrange for her to spend time with her girlfriends or sister or whatever she wants Good luck.

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I think this social expectation is what makes for a lot of unhappy relationships.

You should care about your partner and do nice things for them. But women are not children, and treating them like they are leads to dysfunctional expectations that will not make for a stable and mutually fulfilling relationship.

Treat your wife like a loved one. Not your superior, because emotionally you won't be able to avoid resenting her if you try the princess approach.

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Truth. Plus the princess treatment will inevitably lead to the wife resenting the man too.

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Any divorce success stories?

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They don't start until the kids are over 18.

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I go to tech

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apologies for the mistake... My oldest will be attending Tech next Fall. He's really excited about it. I'll tell him to be on the lookout for blonde cougars

How old are the kids? If they're pretty independent it may be better to be separated from your wife. I don't know the dynamics of the relationship

If she's always angry she may need her hormones checked she may have premenopausal symptoms

I've found most of the bad arguments and conflicts in my marriage to be tied to how I respond to the situation. It usually boils down to the desire to be right. Most of the petty things people dwell on aren't worth the turmoil, and more times than not the person that divorces ends right back in the same situation in their next relationship. In short, it's usually a problem with them and how they approach problems/issues, not their spouse.

It seems people always want someone else to change opposed to changing themselves.